Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Information request on fasting (vanity)
12-10-07 | Vanity

Posted on 12/10/2007 7:59:59 AM PST by Deut28

I'm looking to learn more about fasting, and was hoping that some of you could point me in the right direction towards resources.

Specifically I'm interested in the theological view(s) of fasting, different methods, different times to fast, etc.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: fasting; theology
Thank you for your help!
1 posted on 12/10/2007 8:00:00 AM PST by Deut28
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Deut28

Try here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting


2 posted on 12/10/2007 8:45:28 AM PST by jdm
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Deut28
you could ask Cindy Sheehan or Dick Gregory
3 posted on 12/10/2007 8:48:18 AM PST by stylin19a
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Deut28
First the Fast, then the Feast

Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.  
Other Articles by Marcellino D'Ambrosio, Ph.D.
Printer Friendly Version
 
First the Fast, Then the Feast

December 10, 2007

Christmas cards speak about it.  Christmas carols sing about it.  Even the angels at Bethlehem proclaimed it.  "Peace on earth."  "The lion shall lie down with the lamb." (Is 11).  "Justice shall flourish in his time, and fullness of peace for ever" (Ps 72).

The coming of the Messiah obviously has something to do with the advent of peace.

But we need to examine the biblical notion of peace.  For it is not quite the peace that some have in mind.  It is not niceness or political correctness.  It is not just the absence of armed conflict or "peaceful co-existence."  It is rather right relationship between people that flows from right relationship with God.  Pope Paul VI said that "if you want peace, work for justice."  Justice, however, is not just fair laws and political rights, but the interior justice that the Bible calls righteousness.

The world is obviously not at peace, because human hearts are not at peace.  We are all pulled in opposite directions by competing desires and torn apart by loyalties to different gods.

So before the Prince of Peace can usher in a season of tranquility and refreshment, the forerunner must come with his stern message of warfare.  The enemies of peace will not just lie down of their own accord.  They must be put down.  Peace is a fruit of victory.

The warfare, of course, is not against flesh and blood, but against sin and idolatry, the terrorists that make peace impossible.  Hans Urs von Balthasar said it quite well: we must take sides with the truth against ourselves.  The Holy Spirit that the messiah offers to us will empower us to live in perfect harmony (Rom 15:6).  But He comes not only as light, but as cleansing fire.  In the light of the Spirit, we must honestly and fearlessly look at our lives and give Him permission to burn away the impurities.  This may hurt a bit, but His is a refiner's fire, and His aim is to make us pure gold.

This is why the joyous season of Christmas is preceded by a sober season of purple vestments, the color of repentance.  The Greek word in the New Testament translated as "repentance" is "metanoia."  This literally means a change of mind or a transformation of thinking.  Repentance starts with an act of the intellect whereby we allow our values to be more influenced by God's truth than the TV's babble.

 But a change of mind must lead to a change of life.  John the Baptist is adamant about the fact that repentance is incomplete without action.  "Give some evidence that you mean to reform!" he says to the pious Pharisees and Sadducees who present themselves for baptism.  It's not a question of earning forgiveness by offering sacrifices or doing good works.  It's about accepting the gift of grace and letting that grace bear fruit in action.  Every tree that does not bear fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire.  Sterile fruit-trees are worthless.  A "change of mind" without a change of life is no change at all.

The world will not take any time out of the shopping days before Christmas to attend to these things.  The true Christian attitude towards holidays is simple . . . first the fast, then the feast.  The world's approach is quite different . . . first the feast, then the hangover.

Let's do it right.  Let's get everyone in the family to confession this Advent.  Daily prayer is a must.  Fasting from the din of radio, TV and  Internet and more time in God's word can go a long way toward driving out the darkness and burning off the dross in our lives.  And try this little Advent custom.  In our house, the creche scene is set up early in Advent but the manger remains empty.  We get some bagged straw from the craft shop.  As often as anyone does a hidden work of penance or charity, he or she may place a piece of straw in the manger to prepare a comfortable place of rest for the infant King.  The goal?  To fill the manger by Christmas Eve.

 


4 posted on 12/10/2007 2:52:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

Ghandi drank his own urine.


5 posted on 12/10/2007 2:54:32 PM PST by CholeraJoe (Vote for Mike Huckabee or Chuck Norris will give you a wedgie!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

http://www.fisheaters.com/


6 posted on 12/10/2007 2:58:34 PM PST by Daffy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Daffy
Here's the specific page on the Fisheaters website.
7 posted on 12/12/2007 5:35:37 AM PST by CatQuilt (Lover of cats =^..^= and quilts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

Still need info?


8 posted on 12/14/2007 7:11:58 AM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rennes Templar

I’m always open to more information.

My entire goal is to find a way to integrate fasting with solo fly fishing on at least a yearly basis as a religious retreat for myself.


9 posted on 12/14/2007 8:55:55 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

Actually, let me explain a little deeper.

I strongly feel that gluttony is a major sin, and one that I struggle with. That Starbucks roll was real good this morning, but that type of habit doesn’t gloriy God.

I think periodic fasting will help me refocus spiritually and also show me that gluttony can be overcome.


10 posted on 12/14/2007 8:57:56 AM PST by Deut28 (Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

I am a Doctor of Chiropractic. I have fasted a lot myself and conducted thousands of fasts for patients. I’m writing a book now but no ready info. I can answer specific questions though.

Fasting is the most under utilized healing modality there is, bar none.


11 posted on 12/14/2007 1:46:19 PM PST by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Deut28

Be very careful and do not trust just anyone who says, “I have fasted.” Also remember that fasting without prayer is prelest. This site gives some very good ancient Christian teaching concerning fasting. May the Lord bless your efforts. Forgive me.

http://www.stmaryofegypt.org/devotion/on_fasting.htm


12 posted on 12/14/2007 4:17:13 PM PST by arielguard ("the CHURCH of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth", 1 Timothy 3:15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson