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To: Salvation

Your footnotes are not the Words of God. Nothing in His Words proclaim Mary as His mother. God does not have a mother - He is the great “I AM” -meaning He is self existent. Mary gave birth to the man Jesus - the only begotten of God, which means Jesus had no earthly biological father. Jesus was on Earth as a man who was God. 100% of each - not 50% of each. He was the Son of God from before time (read Colossians chapter 1).

Mary gave birth to the man Jesus. Jesus existed before He was conceived by the Holy Spirit. He humbled Himself and took on flesh (read Philippians chapter 2).

To say that Mary is the mother of God puts God’s existence in the hands of flesh - this is heresy. She was the mother of Jesus - the man, who has always been Jesus - the Lord of Heaven. She ain’t the mother of God.


25 posted on 12/10/2007 5:39:45 AM PST by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
God does not have a mother ... Mary gave birth to the man Jesus ... Jesus was on Earth as a man who was God.

Is Jesus God or isn't he? What does "was on Earth as a man who was God" mean?

Jesus is not a man anymore? Jesus isn't God anymore?

27 posted on 12/10/2007 10:59:42 AM PST by Campion
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
God does not have a mother - He is the great “I AM” -meaning He is self existent.

So you're saying Jesus isn't God? Because if Mary is the Mother of Jesus, then she must be the Mother of God. I suppose you accept the incarnation as a mystery, but will not accept the mystery of Mary's motherhood of God? Why?

Mary gave birth to the man Jesus - the only begotten of God

The "man Jesus" is not the only begotten of God. The Son - the Word of God - is begotten of God. Jesus is the Word made flesh, begotten of the Virgin Mary and her spouse, the Holy Spirit. But here's where it gets tricky: Jesus is BOTH the only begotten of God - as the Divine Word - AND the offpspring of Mary. Since Jesus IS God, then Mary IS the Mother of God. It's a mystery. Just like God taking on the flesh. How did He do it and remain at His eternal throne? We don't know. It defies logic and science, but it happened. How is Mary the Mother of the Eternal God, if she herself is a mortal? It's a mystery, but she is.

Nowhere does Scripture instruct man to separate Jesus' human and Divine natures, for any purpose whatsoever. The Church, however, believed from the outset that Mary was not some ordinary soul outside of her being created. Since God Himself tells us that "all nations will call [her] blessed," who are you to complain?

28 posted on 12/10/2007 11:16:33 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

The footnotes are explanatory.

Did you even read the Scripture?

What Church do you attend to have been fed ideas like this?


33 posted on 12/10/2007 2:12:24 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
No offense, Manfred. But you still haven't answered the question I have twice posed to you. To wit:

"Do you agree with the Bible that Mary is the Mother of YOUR Lord?"

36 posted on 12/10/2007 2:22:11 PM PST by AlguyA
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