"Did you hurt my mama?!?!"
Posted on 12/07/2007 1:41:57 PM PST by NYer
and there is in thee no stain of original sin
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UNBiblical magicsterical rubber-logic nonsense.
. . . and that approaching blasphemy, imho.
"An infallible and unmistakable sign by which we can distinguish a heretic, a man of false doctrine, an enemy of God, from one of God's true friends is that the heretic and the hardened sinner show nothing but contempt and indifference for our Lady. He endeavours by word and example, openly or insidiously - sometimes under specious pretexts - to belittle the love and veneration shown to her."
-St. Louis de Montfort
Actually Quix, that statement would be true of all believers in Christ, would it not?
Is there a Born Again Christian who still has the stain of original sin?
I think not.
It is finished.
My head is fine.
I just consider that the ramblings of a
Magicsterical-doctrines-of-man; doctrines-of-demons tainted mind.
Ahhhh, but their meaning is . . . never was tainted by sin.
If you want to talk “doctrine-of-demons,” it’s the false doctrines you post on this forum.
"Did you hurt my mama?!?!"
In the grand scheme of things (since God not only forgives our sins, but forgets them) in the end, none of us will have ever been tainted by the stain of sin. Righteousness was imputed to Mary (by faith) and it was imputed to us in the same manner. When the believer stands before God, through the imputed righteousness of Christ we will stand there "just as if I'd NEVER sinned".
Justification by faith. The imputed righteousness of Christ. God's gift to Mary. God's gift to all who believe on his Son.
Yes, in His Divine nature.
If you believe that, by spiritual adoption, you are a brother of Jesus in spite of the fact you are not genetically descended, why is it that some of us cannot grasp that Mary is the Mother of God in spite of the fact He has always existed, and existed first?
Genesis 3:15
I will put enmity between you and the woman,
and between your seed and her seed;
he shall bruise your head,
and you shall bruise his heel."
Seed usually refers to the male. But God tells us the seed that is Christ comes from Mary. Therefore, indisputably, Mary is the Mother of God, and not in the manner that James is the Lord's brother.
Alex - truly one of the great, underappreciated performances in movie history.
“You hear bells, baby??”
That has to be from
IT’S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD???
A rare experience for me . . . saw it at the Scottsdale Cinerama with my blood Dad.
I laughed and laughed and laughed. Such a great movie. I should get a copy of it.
There is that.
Thankfully!!!
Yes, in the same sense that James is the brother of our Lord. You agree, I’m sure.
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Great one.
Of course, the RC rubber Bible only stretches one way.
You believe that God passed through all dimensions of time and space to insert Himself into human history and die on a cross, while at the same time remaining in His heavenly glory... but you can't grasp Mary's motherhood of God?
What's up with that?
So, by your logic, Scripture only carries weight based on the page space it occupies? Are you sure you want to head down that path? Because, the entire Protestant reformation seems to be based on only one or two verses...
You miss the BIG point: As a person of the God head, Jesus as God was not born and has no mother. As was pointed out by another post, to proclaim someone as “mother” confers position that nobody can exercise over God. At no point does God honor His mother - because He doesn’t have one!
Jesus as man “made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”
He did these things, of Himself. Not dependent on a mother, nor owing honor to one (see John 2:1 - 5).
The pile of Marian hogwash piled on the post card amount of Scriptural mention
is a huge inverted pyramid that makes Cheops look like a leggo toy.
The only people conferring on Mary a position over God is you. Catholics do not place Mary over God. Her motherhood does not imply superiority. The fact is, God doesn't need a "mother" to create anyone (see Adam). He didn't need to take a "taxi ride" to earth. So the question is, why? Why would the Creator choose to enter into a filial relationship through the "woman" of Genesis when it was totally totally unnecessary? If God became flesh through a woman only to deny her motherhood, what on heaven and earth was the point? Denying the motherhood of Mary implies that God did something totally frivolous, and we know that He does NOTHING in frivolity.
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