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Did Catholic Archbishop Lose Internal Vote Over Abortion, Communion Debate?
Life News ^ | November 19, 2007 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 11/20/2007 6:14:22 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer
Burke has been a controversial figure since early 2004 when, as bishop of La Crosse, WI, he began to challenge pro-abortion Catholic politicians publicly on their reception of the Eucharist.

Sure, he's seen as controversial by the media. But he sure as hell better not viewed as controversial to Catholics and Catholic bishops.

The bishops have a chance to make history by taking a forthright stand against the abortion holocaust. Or they can be quislings. The choice is theirs.

21 posted on 11/20/2007 7:59:08 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: tioga
-all the more reason that the local bishop make the decision, since presumably he would be more informed on the state of the souls in his churches. I doubt the veracity of that, but I understand their reasoning.

True, but isn't this an advisory document? What would be the harm in making a strong general recommendation?

22 posted on 11/20/2007 8:00:58 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: NYer

The good news about this article is that the number of good bishops is up to 40%. The bad news is that we still need to weed out the other 60%.


23 posted on 11/20/2007 8:04:06 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Canon 915 "Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to Holy Communion" (can. 915).

Theoretically, at least, Catholic politicians who identify themselves as Catholic could be ignorant of the issue, and thus not culpable morally. That's a pretty slim reed. But even if that is the case, the bishop has erred just as egregiously by not informing these politicians of the gravity of their position. Either way, the bishops have failed.

24 posted on 11/20/2007 8:05:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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They are not even teaching the Catholic faith at the high school and college level. Hence, they are not producing educated and mature believing Catholics. It's pointless to lecture pro-abortion liberals who are already initiated enemies of the faith.

As bishops' conference expert Rev. Thomas Reese noted in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, an auxiliary bishop defeating an archbishop for a conference chairmanship is "very unusual."

An "expert" from a university controlled by anti-Catholic secret societies...

This is a joke.

"In response to the Kerry and Communion controversy, the bishops formed a task force, headed by Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, to study the issue and present a report."

In the future it would help if the people appointed to head task forces for the USCCB are themselves believing Catholics and that the "experts" appointed to write about these things are also believing Catholics with Catholic educations. They are not going to solve the problem of liberal pro-abortion "Catholics" until they start teaching the Catholic faith to Catholics at Catholic institutions. Why is that so hard for them to understand and face up to?

Let's tear the mask off this problem and call it for what it is.

John Kerry is a Skull and Bones member from Yale who participates in cabals that promote genocidal population control which is an article of faith for all Democrats. Acting like this is all just a matter of "Catholics" who simply are having trouble understanding their faith is dishonest. There are enemies of the faith parading around pretending to be Catholics even in the board rooms and faculties of Catholic colleges and universities. Until they address that problem, they can forget about solving the abortion controversy.

They should start with kicking the secret societies off of consecrated ground.

McCarrick was old enough to know better and attended Fordham when, ironically, it was a university still under the control of Catholics and teaching the Catholic faith. Something else explains their treason and apostasy but they don't want to talk about it.

"Ladies and gentlemen, there is an elephant in the room!"

25 posted on 11/20/2007 8:28:34 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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They are not going to solve the problem of liberal pro-abortion "Catholics" until they start teaching the Catholic faith to Catholics at Catholic institutions. Why is that so hard for them to understand and face up to?

That is the elephant in the room, isn't it? Maybe it reduces to the desire to be popular. Anyway, we should pray for them and demand orthodoxy when opportunities arise.

26 posted on 11/20/2007 8:36:09 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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When fruitcake bishops help to make political accomodations for pro-abortion secret society members, sealed with a secret handshake, posed for media cameras and staged for lukewarm Catholics, if they can’t see the elephant in the room, God help them.


27 posted on 11/20/2007 8:46:54 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: tioga

Divorced and remarried Catholics without an annulment cannot receive Communion either.


29 posted on 11/22/2007 4:46:46 PM PST by victim soul
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