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To: Gamecock
....If the veil were rent today,..........

If I understand the gospel correctly, this it self is in error. It presupposes that God is surrounded by a veil. Now maybe there is more then one veil spoken of in the Bible, but the only veil I know of is the one that was torn in half by God himself when he finally gave up his life at the cross. Would someone confirm for me or correct me if I'm wrong in this matter.

And then there's the matter of God being omnipresent everywhere so even though the Jews presumed that God was behind the veil, he was also on the other side too, except the inner sanctuary was designated as being a Holy place by God.

I'm interested in reading the whole article and the other parts of the series, but for now I'm going to have to put this on hold with the other hundreds of things to do and hopefully will get back to this thread and articles in the series and the comments on this article.

6 posted on 11/10/2007 8:53:56 AM PST by ReformedBeckite
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To: ReformedBeckite

“If I understand the gospel correctly, this it self is in error. It presupposes that God is surrounded by a veil. Now maybe there is more then one veil spoken of in the Bible, but the only veil I know of is the one that was torn in half by God himself when he finally gave up his life at the cross. Would someone confirm for me or correct me if I’m wrong in this matter.”

We believe the spirits of all men existed with God in the beginning, but at our birth the memory of all that came before is denied to us. We talk metaphorically of a ‘veil of forgetfulness’ as the barrier preventing our remembering that time before our birth and that is the veil he was referring to.

“And then there’s the matter of God being omnipresent everywhere”

We don’t believe God to be omnipresent. His power is, but not his person. We do believe he is all powerful and all knowing, so there is no need for him to be omnipresent even.


67 posted on 11/10/2007 8:09:51 PM PST by Grig
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To: ReformedBeckite

I am by no means a theologian but my assumption was that the veil was symbolic (sort of). While God is everywhere he sanctified the temple and the most holy place behind the veil. Before entering such a place a priest would have to cleanse himself. The veil did not limit God but limited mans access to what God had set aside because of his holiness and our sinfulness, when Christ died on the cross for our sins that separation was, through Christ and his grace alone, rent in two.


107 posted on 11/14/2007 11:24:28 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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