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Our Mormon Brothers? Part 6 (God is an exalted man)
The Reformed Evangelist ^ | June 25th, 2007 | James White

Posted on 11/10/2007 7:22:46 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: P-Marlowe

[Is not Jesus an exalted man?

Jesus did not start out as a man and then later become an exalted man/god. Jesus was God (from all eternity) and he lowered himself and took on human flesh.

The Mormon god is a man who (through hard work and obedience to the laws and ordinances of the council of the Gods on the planet Kolob) ultmately was given the opportunity to become one of the legion of gods in the universe.

The Mormon god is not God Almighty who became Man.

Don’t confuse the two.]

I’m not sure how anyone could remain UNCONFUSED given the inconsistencies.

And where does the Goddess Mother fit into all this? She must exist in this pantheon, yet she remains un-named. Why?


41 posted on 11/10/2007 1:30:37 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: P-Marlowe

Please do not take my words and change them to fit your scenario.

I am not saying Jesus was not of the Godhead, I am saying his exaltation was not completed until he was tried in the flesh so that body and spirit could be united for all eternity.

There was more than one deed accomplished in his journey on earth.

He was to teach those who wanted to be joint heir with him the way!

Romans 8

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

He also came for the salvation of all mankind who would believe him and strive to keep His commandments!


42 posted on 11/10/2007 1:32:35 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: P-Marlowe

I know these are hard things for you to understand and the urge to use your corporal tools to reason!


43 posted on 11/10/2007 1:35:20 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: FastCoyote
And where does the Goddess Mother fit into all this?

There is not single Goddess Mother. Each God has a legion of wives available to him to procreate spirit children. Hence the need to keep the polygamy revelation on the books.

44 posted on 11/10/2007 1:42:01 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: restornu
I am not saying Jesus was not of the Godhead, I am saying his exaltation was not completed until he was tried in the flesh so that body and spirit could be united for all eternity.

That.... is even weirder!

45 posted on 11/10/2007 1:43:47 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Michael Knight

Michael,

I would say that it is the LDS that have brought it upon themselves. Was it not Moroni who told JS that all denominations and creeds are an abomination?

Also, those polite young men who come to my door are NEVER satisfied when I tell them I am already a commited believer and faithfully attend a Southern Baptist church.

So, please cut the poor little me act. The Church of LDS is is radically different from Christianity and it’s laughable when Mormons like you pretend otherwise—and pretend like they don’t try to convert Christians.


46 posted on 11/10/2007 1:43:48 PM PST by bethelgrad (Combat Chaps)
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To: P-Marlowe; Reaganesque; Grig; sandude; Saundra Duffy; Utah Girl; Spiff; tantiboh; 2pugs4me; ...

Jesus was born of God/woman manifested in the flesh to complete his mission.

Adam and Eve received bodies for their spirits that were created God.

Man was born of Adam and Eve (man/woman)

Man was created a little lower than angles but when he is resurrected he will above angels.


47 posted on 11/10/2007 1:44:44 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: P-Marlowe

I don’t know I can only speak on what is in scripture.


48 posted on 11/10/2007 1:47:04 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: P-Marlowe

I am not saying Jesus was not of the Godhead, I am saying his exaltation was not completed until he was tried in the flesh so that body and spirit could be united for all eternity.

That.... is even weirder!

****

Did not Satan tempt Jesus when he was in the flesh?

Matt 4

1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.


49 posted on 11/10/2007 1:50:59 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: P-Marlowe

“And where does the Goddess Mother fit into all this?”

[There is not single Goddess Mother. Each God has a legion of wives available to him to procreate spirit children. Hence the need to keep the polygamy revelation on the books.]

Which then of course leads to questions like:

1) “Why do you devalue women so much that they can’t become Goddesses? Are they just babyfactories and pleasure pit-stops?”

2) If polygamy is good enough for man-Gods, why isn’t it good enough for mortals?

Pretty soon, you are arguing the number of angels on the head of a pin.


50 posted on 11/10/2007 3:04:14 PM PST by FastCoyote
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I dont see Mormons on here posting hit pieces on other churches.

That's 'cause being in a cult eats up a lot of time.

51 posted on 11/10/2007 3:11:39 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: humblegunner; Michael Knight
I dont see Mormons on here posting hit pieces on other churches.

That's 'cause being in a cult eats up a lot of time

That is because in the restored Church the LDS strive to keep the Lord Commandments and one of them is to Love One Another!

John 13:
34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

52 posted on 11/10/2007 3:25:19 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: restornu
That is because in the restored Church the LDS strive to keep the Lord Commandments and one of them is to Love One Another!

Uh huh.

And how about brer Smith and brer Young?

Are they Saints? Prophets?

You tell me, then we'll decide what a cult is.

53 posted on 11/10/2007 3:32:00 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: FastCoyote
Pretty soon, you are arguing the number of angels on the head of a pin.


54 posted on 11/10/2007 3:39:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: humblegunner

The Lord does not need your approval humblegunner who is his prophets!


55 posted on 11/10/2007 3:39:48 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: restornu
The Lord does not need your approval humblegunner who is his prophets!

Nope. He sure doesn't.

It's all laid out in the Bible.

No Smiths or Youngs, though.

That's fantasy cult stuff.

56 posted on 11/10/2007 3:46:37 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: humblegunner

The Lord does not need your approval humblegunner who is his prophets!
Nope. He sure doesn’t.

It’s all laid out in the Bible.

No Smiths or Youngs, though.

That’s fantasy cult stuff.

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Since you are not part of the Godhead; Father, Son and Holy Ghost, you also do not Speak for the Holy Ghost!


57 posted on 11/10/2007 3:54:53 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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To: restornu
Since you are not part of the Godhead; Father, Son and Holy Ghost, you also do not Speak for the Holy Ghost!

Is the Holy Ghost less exalted than Jesus because He doesn't have a body?

58 posted on 11/10/2007 3:58:07 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: restornu
Since you are not part of the Godhead; Father, Son and Holy Ghost, you also do not Speak for the Holy Ghost!

Oh, I don't need to.

Read the bible, cast down that comic book of lies and fantasy.

How many wives you got, by the way?

59 posted on 11/10/2007 3:59:45 PM PST by humblegunner (My KungFu is ten times power.©)
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To: P-Marlowe

Since you are not part of the Godhead; Father, Son and Holy Ghost, you also do not Speak for the Holy Ghost!

Is the Holy Ghost less exalted than Jesus because He doesn’t have a body?

****

It is your question and you should pray and ask the Holy Ghost!


60 posted on 11/10/2007 4:02:24 PM PST by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by... PRESS FORWARD MITT)
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