St. Louis Archbishop Burke warns women of excommunication if ordination proceeds

AP ^ | November 7, 2007

[NYer]

"It's a matter of justice and reform," said Elsie Hainz McGrath, 69, of St. Louis (left) and Rose Marie Dunn Hudson, 67, of Festus (right), will participate in a ordination ceremony Sunday.

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"We're going to just totally ignore it. This is not unexpected. We wondered why it took so long."

How totally arrogant!

[festus]

“...The two women — Rose Marie Dunn Hudson of Festus...”

Hey stoat buddy. I got me a town named after me.

[stuartcr]

If they are excommunicated, does that mean they will go to hell?

[ArrogantBustard]

"It's a typically hierarchical form of intimidation,

We're being oppressed!

and we will not be intimidated," McGrath said.

Then you will be excommunicated. Buh-bye!

[NYer]

If they are excommunicated, does that mean they will go to hell?

No. It means they cannot receive the Sacraments.

[ArrogantBustard]

Oh, yes:

[ArrogantBustard]

One Sacrament is still open to them ... may God grant them the Grace to take advantage of it.

[marshmallow]

"It's a matter of justice and reform," said Elsie Hainz McGrath, 69, of St. Louis (left) and Rose Marie Dunn Hudson, 67, of Festus (right), will participate in a ordination ceremony Sunday.

Notice a pattern with these womyn priestesses and bishopettes?

They're mostly in their mid-late 60s.

Doing a little math tells me that they were 20-somethings in the turbulent 1960s. The hippie generation that rebelled against authority and wanted to turn the Church and the world on its head. "Tune in...drop out....." or whatever the motto was.

Somethings never change. These ladies have grown older but not wiser. The tie-died shirts and flowers have gone but the attitude of sticking it to "the man" remains.

[FloreatIacobus]

Of the roughly 100 women who have been ordained as priests or deacons worldwide in the Womenpriests movement, including 37 in the U.S., only the first seven were officially excommunicated by the Vatican, said spokeswoman Bridget Mary Meehan. Others have received letters from their bishop like that sent by Burke, she said.

What a typically misleading statement. Maybe the Vatican only bothered to tell the first 7 - but every single participant excommunicated him/herself by taking part in such an activity. If they don't know such basic theology then regardless of sex they're not suitable to become clerics.

[stuartcr]

Can’t they just go to a different church?

[Mad Dawg]

"Baptism makes us full members of the church for life."

Members, yes. FULL memebers not so much.

... full members of the church for life.

Distinguo. For THIS life, yes, but that's not all there is, you may recall .....

[FloreatIacobus]

Can’t they just go to a different church?

Excommunication means that they're banned from receiving the sacraments in any Catholic church.

[stuartcr]

How would anyone know? What would happen to them?

[Gerish]

Elsie and Rose are a perfect example of the legacy of pride. They both have kept the focus on themselves rather than on God. They have come to believe the ultimate falsehood, that freedom is a condition apart from God rather than the state of being united to His Will.

[FloreatIacobus]

How would anyone know? What would happen to them?

Catholic laws are not predicated on human enforcement, rather on the belief that the Church has a Divine constitution.

You're right in so far as they could potter to a parish where they're not known and receive Communion - but this would not be to their spiritual benefit as they have placed themselves outside the Church's fellowship and communion.

[victim soul]

They are going to a different church, their own, and it is not Catholic.

[Ottofire]

Now if they could only get the gumption to do the same for those that support abortion in your church...

[stuartcr]

So if they did this, the sacrament wouldn’t take?

[stuartcr]

Isn’t that what happened in the reformation?