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To: Pyro7480
"All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." -J.R.R. Tolkien

"All 'his' own perception"; doesn't make it true. He is stating his own opinion, not church doctrine. Mary called God her savior in the Magnificant. She is not the co-Redeemer. She is a sinner saved by grace....and by grace alone.

84 posted on 10/25/2007 1:45:29 PM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: Tolkien
Mary called God her savior in the Magnificant.

Yes, because He did so preemptively.

She is not the co-Redeemer.

Nor does the Catholic Church teach that.

She is a sinner saved by grace....and by grace alone.

Nope, she never sinned, though grace touched her life like none other.

85 posted on 10/25/2007 1:48:47 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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