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To: Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear
They have no answer to your post 494.

"Answer" it? I agree with it.

You, however, obviously cannot, since you say you think you are saved by faith in "Jesus alone," and that clearly precludes you from believing that faith in God the Father or God the Holy Spirit are in anyway salvific.

ETH just denied that he was saved by faith in Jesus alone.

You and he can fight that one out.

524 posted on 10/26/2007 2:42:00 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
"Answer" it? I agree with it. You, however, obviously cannot, since you say you think you are saved by faith in "Jesus alone," and that clearly precludes you from believing that faith in God the Father or God the Holy Spirit are in anyway salvific.

Did you READ the scripture? REALLY read it? It says have faith in the Son to be saved . It never tells us to have faith in the father to be saved

530 posted on 10/26/2007 2:48:23 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: Campion

May I suggest a Guinness at this point?


533 posted on 10/26/2007 2:50:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("For is he not of noble birth? The first child born above the Earth!")
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To: Campion; ears_to_hear
Faith in Christ is faith in the Holy Spirit is faith in God.

I assume you, too, believe that, unless the RCC has now stopped being Trinitarian. (Which some days appears likely since the RCC denies the work of the Holy Spirit in sanctification by turning it instead into some sort of ethereal nudging and holy post-it note suggestion box rather than a complete rebirth by the will and purpose of God.)

Faith does not save. Grace saves through faith.

Get the difference?

God has chosen faith in His Son to be the means by which He bestows His grace on whom He will. That faith acknowledges that Christ has paid for every one of the sins of His sheep, once for all time.

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Not of works, lest any man should boast.

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:4-9


553 posted on 10/26/2007 3:02:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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