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To: Uncle Chip; topcat54

***There is no futurism in Acts 15. ~ topcat54

Except for these words:

“After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up” [Acts 15]***

Future to the OT prophet.
Past to James & Peter....

And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, “Men and brethren, listen to me: Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

James is clearly declaring that they were with their own eyes seeing the fulfillment of the prophecy in the coming of the Gentiles to the Lord. And that ingrafting of gentiles was prophecied AFTER the rebuilding of the tabernacle.

So, off you now go to figure out what significant event was recently accomplished which was the fulfillment of that rebuild.....


769 posted on 11/01/2007 6:57:58 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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To: Lord_Calvinus; Uncle Chip
Future to the OT prophet. Past to James & Peter....

Correct. The OT prophets were true futurists. Peter and James were "contemporarists" on the fulfillment. They witnessed the fulfillment in the person and work of Christ, and the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, in particular on the gentiles who were coming to faith and being ingrafted to spiritual Israel.

"And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14)

770 posted on 11/01/2007 7:17:18 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: Lord_Calvinus; topcat54
James is clearly declaring that they were with their own eyes seeing the fulfillment of the prophecy in the coming of the Gentiles to the Lord. And that ingrafting of gentiles was prophecied AFTER the rebuilding of the tabernacle.

But the text of Acts 15 says that the ingrafting of the Gentiles is occurring BEFORE He returns to restore and rebuild the tabernacle of David. What is happening in the text before the words "After this"???

772 posted on 11/01/2007 8:25:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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