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To: Lord_Calvinus; topcat54
James is clearly declaring that they were with their own eyes seeing the fulfillment of the prophecy in the coming of the Gentiles to the Lord. And that ingrafting of gentiles was prophecied AFTER the rebuilding of the tabernacle.

But the text of Acts 15 says that the ingrafting of the Gentiles is occurring BEFORE He returns to restore and rebuild the tabernacle of David. What is happening in the text before the words "After this"???

772 posted on 11/01/2007 8:25:40 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip; topcat54

***But the text of Acts 15 says that the ingrafting of the Gentiles is occurring BEFORE He returns to restore and rebuild the tabernacle of David. What is happening in the text before the words “After this”???***

You are, AGAIN, reading your Eschatology into the passage instead of getting it out of the passage.

Look at what James says:

And after they had become silent, James answered, saying, “Men and brethren, listen to me: Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name. And with this the words of the prophets agree, just as it is written:

What does James say: THE PROPHETS AGREE with Peter.
What does Peter say: Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.

Gentiles hear and believe ~ Peter
The prophets agree ~ James
So that the rest of mankind may seek the LORD, even all the Gentiles who are called by My name, says the LORD who does all these things. ~ the prophet.

James testifies that the fulfillment of the gentiles believing is occuring in the gospel preaching of Peter. You are assuming that the prophecy in Acts 15 is teaching that the “I will return” promise of the Lord is the SECOND coming of Christ. You are also assuming that the FIRST coming of Christ in the flesh is also the absolute first coming of Christ to his people.

Your Dispensational assumptions have you blind. You are just as blind as the Pharisees were when they saw the Incarnate LORD of the OT standing before them as the sum and substance of Biblical Prophecy. The Lord RETURNED to his people 2000 years ago. The LORD rebuilt the tabernacle in the person and resurrected body of Christ. The nations are coming.

Peter testified to it.
James asserted that it was just as the prophets said.
Why don’t you believe it?

And, you are still also at a quandry in Acts 3 concerning the times of the restoration of ALL THINGS.


777 posted on 11/01/2007 9:24:17 AM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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