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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; Frumanchu; TomSmedley; suzyjaruki; topcat54
Ask quite nearly every adult Catholic who has, over the past 40 years, suffered from the inexcusable negligence in Catechism, or CCD (Confraternity of Christian Doctrine), as we call it here in America --- a negligence that lays at the feet of the Bishops who, opting for a more visible correctitude in matters social and political, have defaulted on their primary responsibility as Teachers of the Faith in their respective dioceses --- and the answer is the same, although the inflections vary: "I really don't know", or, "it is terribly unclear to me"...

...Perhaps, then, as it is said, "a picture (in this case a diagram) is worth a thousand words". So, for the sake of those who should be teaching and do not, or are teaching and know little of what they teach --- but most of all for the children, we present you a picture --- in the shameful absence of words.

And the author of this piece resorts to the same; unable to explain it, he resorts to pictures. Catholic apologetics have left the laity without hope. All they know is how to appeal to the authority of the Magistrate; none seem to make an appeal to Scripture.

6 posted on 10/19/2007 10:17:06 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("Therefore the prudent keep silent at that time, for it is an evil time." - Amos 5:13)
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To: Alex Murphy
And the author of this piece resorts to the same; unable to explain it, he resorts to pictures.

Apparently you did not read the entire article. How about you, Professor Alex, explain the Trinity to the ignorant.

7 posted on 10/19/2007 10:31:12 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Alex Murphy

“Catholic apologetics” would be 2000 years’ worth of endeavor. Do you really feel qualified to assert a universal negative regarding every Catholic apologist from Clement, Ignatius, and Justin Martyr to Scott Hahn? You’ve read them all?


8 posted on 10/19/2007 10:33:59 AM PDT by Campion
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To: Alex Murphy
Alex baby,

THIS is a magistrate.

THIS is the Magisterium.

9 posted on 10/19/2007 11:33:23 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: Alex Murphy
Are you saying that it is only the Catholic Church that has to resort to pictures, these days? This is not a Catholic Country. Most people here have a non-Catholic heritage. Many don't practice their faith, just as is the case for Catholics. Do you suppose that the level of catechetics in non-Catholic denominations is so uniformly reliable that all non-Catholics can explain the nature of the Trinity from biblical source material only. No diagrams allowed? You know that there are tens of millions of non-Catholic Christians who couldn't even begin. C'mon, the "steering wheel" diagram is quite old, quite concise, quite understandable, and therefore quite useful. What, exactly, is wrong with employing it?
11 posted on 10/19/2007 12:48:13 PM PDT by magisterium
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