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To: Elsie
DU, I'm not trying to 'interpret' YOUR words and what YOU'VE written; but what JS had written, so long ago.

Except that then you take those "Interpretations" and proceed to tell me a Mormon what Momrons believe.

Have you ever talked to some one who placed the The Wrong emphasis on the wrong Sylable It can be nearly impossible to understand them. I met a man in Taiwan who had learned english in Louisiana, it took me a half an hour to figure out he was speaking English. The combination of English + Southern Accent + Chinese made his speech almost unrecognizable to someone who spoke "Northern" english as a native.

Your Anti + Evangelical accent applied to Mormon doctrine renders it unrecognizable to a native "Mormon speaker" such as myself.

Stop telling me what I believe, I got that, and you don't.

Yeah, the word feelings does appear in the scriptures, the apostles talked about a burning in their heart while on the road to Emmaus, yet you do not talk about that as a central tenet of Christianity and how that is all you need. If you follow the link to luke in our scriptures, and then click on the word Burn, you get a page with the only Scripture linked to "Burn", which is the scripture you are misinterpreting D&C 9:8. You also get links to the Topical Guide on Teaching with the Spirit, and Jesus Christ, Teaching Mode of. How about a section of the Bible which needs no interpretation, James 2:14-26:
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Yet, I have been told be evangelicals it is not to be taken literally, it is just a story... I do not argue what they believe. I tell them I take it literally. on the other had you are trying to tell us how we must read our own scriptures that you don't believe in.

Fair is fair, I want to tell you how to interpret the Bible, and I'll start with James 2

So, going back to the FIRST thing I said:

You guys search for a FEELING to see if what you've been told is true.


I am telling you RIGHT NOW this is a misinterpretation of our scriptures by you.

You want to learn what we teach, what Joseph taught? Fine Joseph wrote a synopsis for people who wanted to start trying to understand us: THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
1 We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
2 We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam’s transgression.
3 We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
4 We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
5 We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
6 We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
7 We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
8 We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
9 We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
10 We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
12 We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
13 We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Joseph Smith

There is nothing in there about feelings, you are misinterpreting our scriptures.

Therefore the question is; did JS emphasize feelings or not?

No, it was one place, and he also recommended, visions, visitations by angels and other methods of being taught by God in short, seek confirmation from God. God will choose the method and timing of the answer.

you seem to impatiently have skipped Algebra and jumped to Calculus and then you are arguing with people who use calculus every day about correct formulas!

Anyway, The Focus is on study, prayer and then confirmation which May come by feelings, but that is only one of the ways it can come.
131 posted on 10/25/2007 11:45:27 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; greyfoxx39; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN
You want to learn what we teach, what Joseph taught? Fine Joseph wrote a synopsis for people who wanted to start trying to understand us: THE ARTICLES OF FAITH

Bah!!

That is a CREED!!!


Except that then you take those "Interpretations" and proceed to tell me a Mormon what Momrons believe.

Sorry Charlie; I did not. I merely SHOWED you what the Founder of your Religion wrote.


Anyway, The Focus is on study, prayer and then confirmation which May come by feelings, but that is only one of the ways it can come.

Sorry; but that's NOT what your SCRIPTURE says!

Behold!

But, behold, I say unto you, that you must study it out in your mind; then you must ask me if it be right, and if it is right I will cause that your bosom shall burn within you; therefore, you shall feel that it is right.

 

132 posted on 10/25/2007 2:47:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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