[marshmallow]

It is not rejoicing to point out these problems. It is a matter of record, and it requires acknowledging. As a believer in Christian unity, it is necessary for us to sympathize, but it also necessary for us to point out that the depth of depravity evident in some denominations should make them less confident, a bit more humble, when they proclaim themselves the only church on the block.

Like I've said numerous times and will probably continue to repeat until I turn blue, "the Judas factor" did not invalidate the ministry of Jesus nor his divinity and it doesn't invalidate the ministry nor the authenticity of his Church.

Until Christ comes again, there are going to be scandals and all type of difficulties.

When the Catholic Church claims to be a true Church, it's not a boast, OK?? That seems to have been lost. It's not an "in your face".

Pleeeeeeease believe that......:-)

[xzins]

I do believe that you believe it is not an “in your face.”

My point, though, is that a Thyatira-level church has no spiritual legitimacy, no moral standing, to its claim of superiority.

The facts on the table make the claim unsupportable on its face.