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To: Colofornian

Good point. But is there a difference between adding & restoring? Also, the warning has to do w/ man adding. What if the Lord wanted to add or restore? Could he do so through a prophet? Is He bound by that warning? Remember even though Moses produced the Ten Commandments, they were the Lords words & at his behest.


732 posted on 10/17/2007 6:54:23 PM PDT by Reno232
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To: Reno232

Restoring ... like those fabricated prophesies of Joe coming ‘in these latter days?’ ... As add-ons to Genesis Chapter 50?


733 posted on 10/17/2007 6:59:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: Reno232
So, that promise & warning in Revelations was strictly for the book(or scroll as it were) of Revelations.

Then just answer why Joseph Smith added so many words to the book of Revelation in the JST "version" of the Bible.

Good point. But is there a difference between adding & restoring? Also, the warning has to do w/ man adding. What if the Lord wanted to add or restore? Could he do so through a prophet? Is He bound by that warning? Remember even though Moses produced the Ten Commandments, they were the Lords words & at his behest.


Well ... first of all, there is only the LDS claim ... apart from all Christians ... that anything was lost from any scriptures ... let alone from Revelations.

For the LDS to make such a claim, ... it is only to be expected that the claim be proven. Demonstrate exactly what was lost from the scriptures, when and how.

The rather feeble argument that it's possible doesn't prove anything. If you claim to have the authority to restore ... then you should be able to prove your claim.

When Jesus came and prompted the addition of new scripture ... He demonstrated His authority by His miraculous works which were acknowledged by all familiar with Him, whether friend or foe.
John 14:11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.
If God wished again to add (or restore) to His scriptures ... it would be expected that He would demonstrate authority in the one (prophet or other) assigned to the task.

Also note that even though Moses presented the Ten Commandments (along with the remainder of the OT Law) ... he had no authority to add to it.

739 posted on 10/17/2007 7:26:00 PM PDT by Quester
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To: Reno232
Good point. But is there a difference between adding & restoring? Also, the warning has to do w/ man adding. What if the Lord wanted to add or restore? Could he do so through a prophet? Is He bound by that warning? Remember even though Moses produced the Ten Commandments, they were the Lords words & at his behest.

Listen, when the Lord wanted to add a message, he started anew. 2 Samuel followed 1 Samuel. 2 Chronicles followed 1 Chronicles. When the Corinthians needed an additional message, it was 2 Corinthians. Same with the Thessalonians. Same with Timothy. On and on.

Just as the Holy Spirit guided men's words in their testimony (Matt 10), the Holy Spirit was promised to bring recall to Jesus' words in the minds & recordings of men.

What people don't understand with the New Testament is just how often it was recorded piecemeal in documents within several hundred years after they were recorded. IOW, it would be like somebody reviewing everything you said from one source--FREEPER archives--but dispersing EVERYTHING you said in other documents in circulation.

Even if the archives were lost, if all the other docs were rounded up, we could re-construct what you said originally.

IOW, it wouldn't ultimately matter (in terms of where we are now in history) if bits & pieces had lost (which they weren't). But again, let's assume worst case...that bit & pieces of the NT were stripped away every century for, let's say 10 centuries.

The fact is, there are enough historical documents where you can go and find scriptural quotations to reconstruct the NT in every essential essence, especially doctrine. (Now, there are some of Paul's letters that have not been found...for example, I believe they think Paul wrote 4 letters to the Corinthians). But that is a different matter than bits & pieces being allegedly stripped away. Therefore, that content hasn't been lost; therefore you don't need a "restoration"--I mean, Joseph didn't give us 3 Corinthians and 4 Corinthians.)

740 posted on 10/17/2007 7:28:44 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Reno232
But is there a difference between adding & restoring?

The LDS organization has NEVER shown anything to be GONE from Revelations, so the problem falls on them to PROVE that their 'additions' are TRULY restorations.

Some EX-LDS members HAVE 'prayed' about these things and gotten an answer of 'FALSE': That's why they are now EX'es.

768 posted on 10/18/2007 1:44:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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