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To: colorcountry
I never said IF or WHEN my name was/will be removed. As I said, it is none of your business.

You made it my business when you attacked the LDS Church and cited your own experience as evidence. You do so frequently on these threads.

I am not asking that you give the date and time. I just want to know whether your name has been removed from the records of the Church. If so, were you "forced out" or did you have your name removed voluntarily?

But I can give you links showing Mormon Freepers requesting, then demanding I formally leave, and denying me the right to call myself Mormon

That someone would say such things is unfortunate. However, I have not done so.

More to the point, a few anonymous FReepers do not represent the LDS Church. They have no power to demand anything of you or deny you anything. Nevertheless, you write as if they have the ability to force you out of the Church, which is nonsense.

I happen to have become born again with knowledge that I am saved through the atonement of Christ through no works of my own, and that the Church has lead many astray by being obtuse or deceptive about their beliefs - and too we have seen THAT on this very thread.

So when did you formally leave the LDS Church? Or if you have not done so, why would you remain in an organization that has lead so many astray?

As far as my “progressive” Bishop is concerned. I already said he would be put out if anyone found out. And so, it is my secret and his precisely because of fear of retribution.

Complete and utter nonsense. Assuming that you really did talk to your bishop about my post, why would he be "put out" (do you mean "released"?) for giving advice to you? No one here knows who you are or who your bishop may be; and even if they did, none would care what he may have said to you.

And what is the nature of this supposed "secret" that you are protecting? Your membership status is available to any number of persons, including your bishop's counselors, the ward clerk, and the stake president.

If you are going to make public accusations against the LDS Church based on your own experience, you should provide reasons for us to believe that you know what you are talking about. Thus far, you have refused to do so.

252 posted on 10/10/2007 1:06:58 PM PDT by Logophile
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The Morg? What's this I hear about dead peoples losing membership there?


253 posted on 10/10/2007 1:23:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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To: Logophile
you should provide reasons for us to believe that you know what you are talking about.

Do you seriously doubt that I have been a lifelong Mormon? LOL - then there is no proving it to you. I have posted hyms, primary songs, knowledge of Temple ceremonies, seminary lessons and place of birth, which is enough to prove to anyone truly interested that I am indeed Mormon. Doubt me if you wish, but I will not be revealing anything more personal than I already have on these countless "Mormon" threads.

254 posted on 10/10/2007 1:24:44 PM PDT by colorcountry (If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest you get nonsense! ~ J. Vernon McGee)
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To: Logophile
 
You made it my business when you attacked the LDS Church and cited your own experience as evidence. You do so frequently on these threads.
 
Of COURSE!!!
 
He used to be MORMON!!
 
This stuff is ingrained REALLY deeply, it seems.
 
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.” 

 
 
 You must admit that LDS organization members tend to "attack non-LDS Church's and cite their own experience as evidence. They do so frequently on these threads."  as well.

286 posted on 10/11/2007 5:33:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Logophile
If you are going to make public accusations against the LDS Church based on your own experience, you should provide reasons for us to believe that you know what you are talking about. Thus far, you have refused to do so.

Remember how when a dude DOES get 'ex-communicated" from the LDS organization, headquarters won't ever say WHY???

Can't we have the same type of respect given to OUR opinions as they do??

288 posted on 10/11/2007 5:35:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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