I already did.
The angel Gabriel greets Mary
Mary, full of grace.
That’s equals someone who is not tarnished with sin. One of the biggest indicators in the Bible of the Immaculate Conception.
Another was in the apparition at Lourdes to Bernadette when Mary claimed she was the “immaculate Conception.”
Bernadette had no idea what she was talking about and was instructed to go tell the local priest or bishop. (I forget which right now.
Have you read anything about that apparition? Mary also tells us to pray for peace.
28And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
I understand by this verse that she is blessed because "the Lord is with thee" and that she is to bear the Messiah. I see no inference in this verse (in any translation) of a state of sinlessness.
Another was in the apparition at Lourdes to Bernadette when Mary claimed she was the immaculate Conception.
Sorry, but this isn't Scripture.
Salvation, you have a tender spirit which is evident in most all of your posts, so understand that I am not attacking you, but what I see to be a false doctrine. If you will honestly look at the litany of such Marian doctrines, you will see that they are not supported by Scripture and are often at odds with what is written in God's Word. Which are we to believe?
Thats equals someone who is not tarnished with sin. One of the biggest indicators in the Bible of the Immaculate Conception.
BALDERDASH.
So, you're saying that Mary was FULL OF GRACE IN CONTRAST TO St Paul after the Damascus road?
Or, IN CONTRAST TO John on the Isle of Patmos?
What brazen illogic. There is NO "EQUALS" logically, Scripturally, linguistically, theologically, historically, prophetically--JUST AIN'T THERE.
Fantasizing it there isn't remotely sound theology nor even a very sound construction on historical reality.
SCRIPTURE TEACHES ALL US MORTALS that the one who thinks he has no sin is greatly DECEIVED and the truth is not in him. I JOHN 1:8
According to the theological hogwash postulated by this and similar threads, Mary would have certainly "KNOWN" she was immaculately contrived. Therefore she'd have thought she had no sin. Therefore she'd have not had the truth in her.
THAT line of reasoning is MUCH MORE SOUND than the MARY = ARK nonsense above and CERTAINLY MORE REASONABLE than that FULL OF GRACE EQUALS immaculately contrived/conceived.
Observing someone overflowing in a BAPTIZED IN HOLY SPIRIT EXPERIENCE is awesome in many cases. THEY are, in those moments FULL OF GRACE. But still very human. And, as Billy Graham has wisely said--WE LEAK. We need daily refillings.
Pretending that Mary never leaked is utter UnScriptural balderdash.