Mitt's Mission

Newsweek ^ | Oct. 8, 2007 issue | Jonathan Darman and Lisa Miller

[AmericanMade1776]

For Mitt Romney, it all started in a two-story, wood-framed house on a busy street in Pontiac, Mich. Painted beige, encircled by an asphalt lot that would hardly hold a dozen cars, the building manages to look both decrepit and picturesque, like a million other urban churches across the country. Today it houses the Unity Church of Practical Christianity, but until Romney was 10, it was the Mormon church he attended with his family—at least twice a day on Sunday, and one night a week for youth group.

[colorcountry]

LOL....

The profit is the only man that can talk for God in all things. Next thing you know he’ll be directin’ the new POTUS, Mitt Romeny.

I read that in my tea leaves.

[N3WBI3]

Hey in one post you brag how your growing and in another you act humble at your size....

[N3WBI3]

"a dynamic and growing Church that does many good works for people of all denominations and has among its membership"

"all our righteous acts. are as filthy rags"

"has among its membership millions of traditional-value families, local, national, and world leaders in government, industry, and education?"

The same can be said of Buddhism and Hinduism

[JRochelle]

Beer before noon?

No sunbeam points for you!

:)

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"all our righteous acts. are as filthy rags"

Speak for yourself, and seek to understand that scriptural verse in its correct context.

"has among its membership millions of traditional-value families, local, national, and world leaders in government, industry, and education?" "The same can be said of Buddhism and Hinduism."

Yes, and I'm glad of that fact because it makes for a better world, and I've never heard a Buddhist or Hindu attacking "Mormons" or adherents of any other faith.

So, then, what on earth is your point, if you have one at all??

[Utah Binger]

Beer before noon?

It's beer-thirty somewhere on this earth. Besides, I was crying in my beer not necessarily drinking it. Remember that's all we ex-mo's know how to do. "Cry in our beer". In the morning I cry in the Thunderbird Coffee, afternoon's it's sometimes Tequila or even a fine wine.

Ahhhh the freedom from the Church of WoW.

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We are growing and at the same time -- for now --make up only a tiny portion of the world's population.

You embarrass yourself by making such a silly statement. And I wasn't bragging, an obvious point which seems to have escaped you....

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Baptism for the dead was not a pagan tradition, but it was a Jewish practice. Study, learn, apply....

[MHGinTN]

Here is a clear explanation posted by a fellow freeper regarding the baptism for the dead:

Mormon Baptism for the dead refuted:
I Corinthians 15:29, "Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?"

Just north of Corinth was a city named Eleusis. This was the location of a pagan religion where baptism in the sea was practiced to guarantee a good afterlife. This religion was mention by Homer in Hymn to Demeter 478-79.

The Corinthians were known to be heavily influenced by other customs. After all, they were in a large economic area where a great many different people frequented. It is probable that the Corinthians were being influenced by the religious practices found at Eleusis where baptism for the dead was practiced.

Paul used this example from the pagans in 1 Cor. 15:29, when he said, "...if the dead are not raised, then why are they baptized for the dead?" Paul did not say we. This is significant because the Christian church was not practicing baptism for the dead, but the pagans were. Paul's point was simple. The resurrection is a reality. It is going to happen when Jesus returns. Even the pagans believe in the resurrection, otherwise, why would they baptize for the dead?

[N3WBI3]

Speak for yourself, and seek to understand that scriptural verse in its correct context.

The context that as Christians we are not to rely or count or works as having merit in the eyes of God? No matter how 'good' I am compared to the holiness of God it is filth. But you go ahead and keep hanging your hat on how holy you are..

Buddhist or Hindu attacking "Mormons" or adherents of any other faith.

Oh yea because its not like the Gospel is *meant* to divide is it?

"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" --Jesus

Hindu attacking "Mormons" or adherents of any other faith

BTW Christians on the ground in India might disagree with that whole Hindu 'live and let live' idea, it is a caste society you know..

[N3WBI3]

Really not bragging?

"The Church has grown and will continue to grow against all odds and there isn't a damned thing you can do about it. So eat your heart out, continue to cry in your beer, and rehearse how you will try to con the Savior when you stand before the Judgement Bar."

Looks suspiciously like bragging

And Romney will be president. It must really suck to be you, and for that you have my pity and my prayers....

And such language.. Even though it might be the parlance of our times suck in the manner you use it refers to fellatio.

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I'm not overjoyed at the prospect of Romney becoming POTUS, be he "Mormon," Hindu, Baptist, or Wiccan.

He supports a lot of things that I consider to be wrong, and he changes with the wind.

Budweiser, eh? I had you pegged as a Stroh's man.... 8~)

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In my mind it refers to sucking eggs, as it has for years in English parlance.

You should get your mind out of the gutter, elevate your thoughts, and not be influenced the "parlance of the times."

And as Will Rogers said, "It isn't bragging if it's true."

Now, go away, or I shall continue to taunt you!! (Monty Python) 8~)

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OK. Everyone get back to work. Our country needds us!!

[Saundra Duffy]

I’ve been reading a fascinating book - “A New Kind of Christian - a tale of two friends on a spiritual journey” by Brian D. McLaren. It’s about an evangelical pastor who is fed up with all the B.S. and thinks about leaving the ministry. He meets a guy and together they question and learn from each other. The pastor is pretty set in his ways and burdened down by all the evangelical jargon and repetition - same old same old. The other guy is more free to live and love. Very interesting. There’s one place where they compare Joseph Smith to David Koresh but that came up when the pastor was questioning EVERYTHING in the Church. I got past it. You have to rise above all the B.S., FReeper pal . . . or at least we try.

[Colofornian]

The membership of the Church makes up far less than 1% of the world's population and about 2% of the U.S.

Boy, that's a lot of proxy baptisms to undertake (only 99.whatever % of the world; not to mention the thousands born every half hour). Pray tell, how is it (in this context) that you are able to tell Elsie, "Just like you and your comrades, who spend an inordinate amount of time attacking someone else's religion, a futile waste of time, instead of building, serving, and blessing."?

Shouldn't you, instead of taking aim at some FREEPERs, be researching, getting proxy-dunked, etc? In fact, wouldn't it be more advantageous to do as Jesus says, to "go out and look for the 99" unproxied dead souls out there in CemetaryLand and leave the "1" answering the LDS missionary doorbell ring? With the massive, "most important" work that proxy-baptism is supposed to be, shouldn't the LDS call all its missionaries home and re-send them to CemetaryLand to rescue its dead as the "saviors" Mormons are meant to be?

Don't forget the words of the LDS "prophet" as I posted in #27: “Some may feel that if they pay their tithing, attend their regular meetings and other duties, give their substance to the poor, perchance spend one, two, or more years preaching in the world, that they are absolved from further duty, but the greatest and grandest duty of all is to labor for the dead!” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, Vol II, pp 42-44).

(So if you see 2 guys on bikes w/white suits & ties & name badges at your local cemetary this Halloween, scribbling furiously the names recorded on tombstones...no, it's not trick-or-treaters who've lost their way...no, it's not your normal occultic fare who would otherwise show up in such a place on such a date...nope...maybe, just maybe, somebody passed on this suggestion of mine & it's just your local friendly Mormon whose finally decided to take the words of their "prophets" seriously).

[colorcountry]

Good point. Why are they wasting there time here when there are BILLIONS of lost dead souls to do Temple work for. And to think that only a very small percentage of Mormons are even worthy enough to get into the Temple. 20% of 1% of the population is supposed to save all the people all over the Earth for all time. And they think this is a “fair” plan. LOL

[Utah Binger]

http://www.beernotes.com/midwest/articles/000353.html

Stroh Sells Out: Pabst, Miller Pick Up Brands

150-year-old company to sell or close breweries
April, 1999

Sorry, but I tried that crap in the early eighties while my old Irish drinking buddy, Liberal Charlie Coggins was still alive. He tried to convince me it was “union” beer and that that’s why union busting Coors shouldn’t be touched.

[Utah Binger]

How come people are not worthy while alive and suddenly they die and are instantly worthy to have the work done? How come they can reject it while alive and suddenly cannot reject it when dead?

At the funeral of my nephew last month in SLC, the bishop had the audacity to say that now his temple work could be done when in reality the kid had stated that he wanted no part of it to his parents, his siblings and his uncles.