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To: Elsie
Joesph Smith lied when he said he SAW the Father.

Oh; I'm sorry perhaps JS didn't LIE after all!

He didn't DIRECTLY say he saw the Father; but a PERSONAGE who said, "This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!"

855 posted on 10/22/2007 2:33:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/19#19
  17 ..... One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. 
 
 
CHRIST is NEVER mentioned and the FATHER is never mentioned: just PERSONAGES.  Strange.

857 posted on 10/22/2007 2:37:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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