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To: colorcountry; tantiboh; All
I’m sorry to tell you this, but yes Abraham WAS an adulterer. Hagar was his wife’s handmaiden and NOT his wife. That IS the very definition of adultery.

Hi Color, don’t have time to play, just popping in to the end of this thread and saw that someone should defend God’s ancient servants and prophets whom you call adulterers, in order to meet your definition... There are many, I will just do Abraham, since you bring him up specifically as an “adulterer”

Abraham was God’s prophet, yes PROPHET. He had 3 wives, Sarah, Hagar and Keturah. (BTW, moses’s fist wife, Zipporah, was through Abraham’s third wife, Keturah)

The lord speaking in a dream to the King OF Egypt, says specifically that Abraham was His prophet, and that Abraham would pray for him and bless his house.

Incidentally, verse 12 of this same passage also speaks of Abraham’s father also having multiple wives. Sarah was not only his wife, but also his half sister, he never lied about that to the King.

Gen. 20

3 But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night, and said to him, Behold, thou art but a dead man, for the woman which thou hast taken; for she is a man’s wife.
4 But Abimelech had not come near her: and he said, Lord, wilt thou slay also a righteous nation?
5 Said he not unto me, She is my sister? and she, even she herself said, He is my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocence of my hands have I done this.
6 And God said unto him in a dream, Yea, I know that thou didst this in the integrity of thy heart; for I also withheld thee from sinning against me: therefore suffered I thee not to touch her.
7 Now therefore restore the man his wife; for he is a prophet, and he shall pray for thee, and thou shalt live: and if thou restore her not, know thou that thou shalt surely die, thou, and all that are thine.

The following chapter is where Issac is born and Haggar leaves with her son Ishmael.

btw, I will not be able to 'back and forth with you', no time, I can't catch up on my posts for several more days. Someone else will have to do the honors.

For that I apologize... you will have to consider this a "hit and run".

Good day all.

243 posted on 09/28/2007 8:55:09 AM PDT by sevenbak (Truth shall spring out of the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. ~Psalms 85:11)
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To: sevenbak
So are Prophets of God perfect? NO!

Abraham was an adulterer. God gave him a promise of a son, and yet Sarah, who doubted, took matters into her own hands and offered up Hagar as a ‘surrogate’ mother for Abraham’s son. This wasn’t God’s plan at all, and we see what happened as a result....the nation of Islam.

Abraham sinned, he was not perfect. His righteousness was credited to him because of his FAITH and not works. Each man, indeed even prophets, fail and sin. There is no one righteous not ONE. Even Abraham, but his faith MADE him righteous.

The New Testament pays great tribute to Abraham, the man of faith. His name appears 30 times in the gospels, 8 times in Acts (5 in one sermon), and 32 times in the epistles. When a New Testament writer wanted to teach a lesson on the nature of or importance of faith, Abraham was the model. When Paul taught about the righteousness which exists through faith, Abraham was the model (Rom. 4). When Paul taught that all people became the heirs of God’s promises through faith, Abraham was the foundation of the lessons (Gal. 3). In Hebrews’ roll call of the people of faith, one section pays tribute to Abraham’s sojourning and another to his offering of Isaac (Heb. 11). When James taught that obedient works were the natural expression of a living faith, Abraham’s faith was a primary evidence (Jas. 2).

When the Christian properly understands Abraham’s faith which was reckoned for righteousness, he will understand the faith which will allow him to be righteous before God.

244 posted on 09/28/2007 9:04:21 AM PDT by colorcountry (If the plain sense makes sense, seek no other sense, lest you get nonsense! ~ J. Vernon McGee)
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To: sevenbak

You are great at fudging facts.

Sarah was DEAD when Abraham married Keturah.

You just ignore that silly little truth in order to spread your misinformation.

It was Sarah’s idea to have her maiden sleep with Abraham to produce and heir. Nowhere does it say it was from God.

Sarah was trying to ‘help’ God, she had lost faith that she would ever conceive. And we all know what has come of that ‘help’.


246 posted on 09/28/2007 9:47:07 AM PDT by JRochelle ( Soros is evil.)
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To: sevenbak
He had 3 wives, Sarah, Hagar and Keturah.

Sorry; not a wife but Sari's servant.

252 posted on 09/28/2007 10:15:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sevenbak
Genesis 20:5
Said he not unto me, She is my sister? and she, even she herself said, He is my brother: in the integrity of my heart and innocence of my hands have I done this.

Dang!!!

He did it AGAIN!!!

253 posted on 09/28/2007 10:17:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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