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Posted on 09/24/2007 8:16:13 AM PDT by colorcountry
Being excommunicated for apostasy by the Mormon church is one thing, but Lyndon Lamborn is livid that his stake president has ordered bishops in eight Mesa wards to take the rare step of announcing disciplinary action against him to church members today. "I thought if he could go public, so can I," said Lamborn, a lifelong member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, who said his research into church history gave him "thousands of reasons the church can't be what it claims to be."
Stake President R. James Molina acknowledged Friday he intends to have Lamborn's excommunication announced to the wards at men's priesthood meetings and womens Relief Society gatherings, even with Lamborn now taking his case public. Molina, as well as officials at church headquarters in Salt Lake City, call such a public warning about an ousted member extremely rare. They say, however, church members must be protected from what discordant ex-followers may say to damage the church...................
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I never said Abraham didn't sin. I said he didn't commit adultery. Jesus was the only person alive who was without sin, but God had never worked through his prophets when they disobeyed his commandments as blatantly as you accuse Abraham and the rest of doing. Righteousness is a prerequisite of obtaining the powers of heaven, it's always worked that way. Same goes for the Holy Ghost or comforter. One must at least be trying to live the commandments.
And yes, prophets are fallible as men, or course they are. No one is claiming otherwise.
No, I do not agree. The scriptures clearly say that Hagar was his wife.
Why at the same time tell us it is the Bible is inerrant word of God!
Hey gang that couldn't shoot straight you can't have it both ways!:) LOL
The only thing that condemned David it wasn't plural wives or concubines it was the murder of Uriah, murder is an unpardonable sin!
This is one thing David could not repent for because of all the light of truth he was given in life!
The long and varied discipline through which he passed in the earlier part of his life fitted him for the duties of the throne. As shepherd he acquired the habit of deep reflection; as courtier he was trained in self-control and chivalrous generosity; as outlaw he acquired knowledge of men and power of government; while each successive phase of experience developed that conscious dependence upon God which was the secret of his strength throughout his life. Like Saul he was guilty of grave crimes; but unlike Saul, he was capable of true contrition and was therefore able to find forgiveness, except in the murder of Uriah. As a consequence David is still unforgiven, but he received a promise that the Lord would not leave his soul in hell. He will be resurrected at the end of the Millennium. Because of his transgressions, he has fallen from his exaltation (D&C 132: 39).
"For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope." ~ Romans 15:4
Thats so backwards and you know it.
The bottom line is you reall don't to understand the ways and things of God, some perfered to lulled in a comfort zone or rest on their laurals.
Why did God ask Abraham to offer up his only Son Isaac as a sacrifice?
No comment...
NEARLY??
Here is what Pharoh said:
Genesis 12:19
Why did you say, `She is my sister,' so that I took her to be my wife? Now then, here is your wife. Take her and go!"
I will NOT read ANY truth about my Beloved Master
that is NOT in line with what I believe!!!
Hey diddle diddle,
the cat in the fiddle,
the cow jumped over the moon.
Alright, so you deny the prophetic calling of Abraham.
So NOW you are saying that ADULTERY = GOD's calling???
AMAZING!!
You CANNOT show any 'command of GOD' to do what you've claimed.
I wouldn't quite call it this, but it IS a good example of going off on a tangent.
You hope it was the HG anyway.
The moives I have seen in the last years or so was; 6 Sense, LOTR, Harry Potter, and hope some day to The Chronicles of Narnia
Or ANYTHING you post; either!
"Have no Fun"
Yes, he did, after the Lord gave him permission through Nathan, the prophet at that time to have multiple wives. Not only that, it says in the OT,
And you've referenced THESE Scriptures to prove your point:
2 Samuel 12: 7,8
7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
8 And I gave thee thy master's house, and thy master's wives into thy bosom, and gave thee the house of Israel and of Judah; and if that had been too little, I would moreover have given unto thee such and such things.
But the problem is, GOD did NOT 'give permission' THROUGH Nathan.
Nathan was merely reminding David of what GOD had done.
You and UG need to get together on this point. Read 308
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