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Yes, it's hard work, but it's also hard work to keep riding the fence and saying "we don't know..." which is in essence what he's repeating when he says ""Don't put on the attitude that we know all the answers because we don't," said Fincher, addressing youth workers."

That translates to (in emergent-speak) "don't put on the attitude that you know ANY answers."

1 posted on 09/20/2007 9:18:43 PM PDT by Terriergal
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I am the director of a ministry that conducts apologetics training workshops for young people. Our primary aim is to establish the evidence of the existence of God in a CSI-like setting. We take our "Mobile Forensic Apologetics Lab" to churches for a 3-4 hour interactive workshop. Looking to expand the territory for presenting these workshops: based in Colorado Springs.

Had a chance today to make a presentation to the chaplains at Fort Carson...hopefully so that we can put on some workshops for the soldiers in the future.

PS: I am a retired Army Chaplain.

2 posted on 09/20/2007 11:20:41 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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They speak in “narratives” because they trust not the Scriptures?

We must remember that man’s wisdom is foolishness in God’s sight and the saving Gospel of Christ crucified is foolishness to those who are perishing, but it is the power of God to save men from their sin.

No compromise, no turning back, no finishing in the flesh what Christ redeemed by His blood.


3 posted on 09/21/2007 5:53:56 AM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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bump for later read


6 posted on 09/21/2007 12:01:37 PM PDT by VOA
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Some things I’d like to say to this reply, as I think in the world of anonymity, we need still be responsible with our comments.

1) I’m not emergent. I fall into line with historical thinking on these matters in a conversational way, like the way C. S. Lewis, Chesterton, Zacharias, J.P.Moreland, and the like do.

2) I do not believe the author of this article actually read my book. I believe the quotes were taken from an EDITED podcast made by Zondervan/Youth Specialties.

3) I’ve spent a lot of time thinking through this book to make it readable to teens while at the same time remaining orthodox. Please don’t dismiss it without a fair hearing. You may be surprised.

“Living with Questions” is the first apologetic book of its kind for students who are asking the hard questions. These questions were taken from a collection of 3,000 gathered while speaking around the country the last few years. These questions reveal more about what’s going in students than a lot of what we gather from our statisticians. Too many books today are written to answer questions students may not be asking or written in ways that do not adequately or robustly address those questions.

Too many youth workers are underequipped to handle the hottest questions their students are throwing at them. This should be no surprise. This book is to help with that.

Because there have been no books for students written on this subject, especially in a conversational way with tools to help them think through answers on their own, I thought I’d step up.

My background is not only in the performing arts but also in philosophy of religion at Talbot School of Theology (very non-emergent).

So before speculating, please look at a larger picture. Check out the reviews of my book at Amazon.com and perhaps order one for a student you love. Sometimes it isn’t enough to send them off to the many seminars around the country just before they enter college. Sometimes they need to hear an honest heart sharing robust tools to find answers in an honest way. Sometimes they need a book to keep referencing, to reread, to share with a friend, and to talk about. They need to start getting grounded long before college... no later than the beginning of high school.

And for those who really think we DO know all the answers, that is simply irresponsible to say so. That kind of posturing does no good for the Kingdom. And teens eventually see through it.

Teens want to stand on the floorboards of their faith. They want own it. They don’t just want to parrot what they’ve been told. I counsel hundreds of teens every year who are silently giving up their faith because nobody is helping them in these areas, even in Christian homes and schools.

So let’s get mature about all of this, stop name-calling, and start doing the hard work of communicating hard truths in ways that make sense and give life. Consider reading Living with Questions for yourself and passing it along to a teen.

Some forms of post-modernism has told us truth has died. If you read chapter 2 of my book, “What is Truth?”, you’ll see where I come down on the matter, which is not postmodern, but it isn’t constricting, like the way the enlightenment told us to think about truth. It is more historically and Biblical broad.

I’m always happy to dialog on this more. Visit our non-profit, Soulation (www.soulation.org) or email me directly at dale@soulation.org.

Grace and Peace,
Dale Fincher

8 posted on 09/22/2007 1:05:53 PM PDT by Dale Fincher (Apologist | Author | Storyteller)
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As a translator, I work with languages in order to communicate a message everyday, and I am a bridge between authors and readers. I can tell as an actual reader of Fincher’s book that it is all about effective communication. The book clearly gets to the point.

Someone in a previous post referred to the “narrative” style as being of lesser importance than the Scriptures. Of course... if one reads both! You must first drag people to read the Bible, and if it takes a narrative, a testimony, day-to-day examples, or humour - things that abound in Fincher’s book - to encourage young people to do so, well, why not?

As an adult, I found valuable insights in it, not just “breadcrumbs of truth.” In fact, even if there would indeed just happen to have only “breadcrumbs of truth” to be found in Fincher’s book - which is definitely not the case - that would still be a good start. Hasn’t Jesus fed five thousands with five loaves of bread and two fish?

We must believe every step matters when we look for truth. We must seek answers within ourselves, and the burden to find these answers clearly doesn’t rest upon the one who is helping in our quest, but upon us as seekers. A little help is always welcome, let’s not bring down those who really try to change the world one soul at the time.

Marie-Claude Plourde, C. Tr.


10 posted on 09/22/2007 2:13:05 PM PDT by TranslatingMarie
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