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Rabbis disgusted by Madonna's visit
Jerusalem Post ^ | Sept. 17, 2007 | Matthew Wagner

Posted on 09/17/2007 11:23:54 AM PDT by Alouette

Orthodox teachers of Kabbala reacted with disdain Sunday to pop idol Madonna's Rosh Hashana visit in Israel, during which she took part in a study session of Judaism's most esoteric texts.

"It is a known fact in Kabbala that impurity and evil are inherently attracted to sanctity," said a director of one of the most respected Kabbala yeshivot in Jerusalem who preferred that he and his institution remain anonymous.

"That's why people of Hollywood, a place of iniquity and lasciviousness, are naturally attracted to the holiness of Kabbala."

The director of the yeshiva said he was explaining a basic Kabbalistic concept according to which "sparks" of holiness tightly connected to "shells" of impurity are waiting to be let free. These "shells" [klipot] are naturally attracted to their polar opposite - holiness.

"Wherever there is holiness and sanctity there is also evil," added the director, who said that during her last visit to Israel three years ago, Madonna repeatedly tried to contact his institution, but her calls were not returned. "That's why someone like that lady - I don't even want to mention her name - is so attracted to the Kabbala."

Rabbi Yitzhak Batzri, son of Jerusalem-based kabbalist David Batzri, head of the Shalom Yeshiva, said that it was forbidden to teach Kabbala to non-Jews such as Madonna.

"Even Jews are not allowed to delve into the secrets of the Kabbala until they have thoroughly reviewed the entire Talmud and the legal commentaries, and also scrupulously adhere to all the commandments," added Batzri. "But we as Jews can learn something from the interest non-Jews have in Kabbala. Even the non-Jews understand the power of the Kabbala. They are willing to come from the ends of the earth to learn it."

During her trip to Israel, Madonna toasted Rosh Hashana with President Shimon Peres and declared herself an "ambassador for Judaism."

The singer, who is not Jewish, met Peres at his official Jerusalem residence on Saturday evening, and the two exchanged gifts, with Madonna receiving a lavishly-bound copy of the Old Testament.

She presented Peres with a volume of the Zohar (The Book of Splendor), the guiding text of Jewish mysticism, or Kabbala, inscribed, "To Shimon Peres, the man I admire and love, Madonna," the Yediot Aharonot daily said. A Peres aide confirmed the meeting but had no details.

Madonna arrived in Israel Wednesday night, the eve of the New Year, with her film director husband, Guy Ritchie, to attend a Kabbala conference.

Other celebrities who flew in for the event included movie star Demi Moore and her husband, actor Ashton Kutcher, ex-talk show host Rosie O'Donnell and fashion designer Donna Karan.

"You don't know how popular the Book of Splendor is among Hollywood actors," Yediot quoted Madonna as telling Peres. "Everyone I meet talks to me only about that." Kutcher was quoted by an Israeli daily as telling a group of Israeli businessmen and entertainers on Saturday that Kabbala had answered fundamental questions in his life and made him a better actor.

Madonna, who was raised a Roman Catholic, has taken the Hebrew name Esther, and has been seen wearing a red thread on her wrist in a Jewish tradition to ward off the evil eye. Madonna paid her first visit to Israel three years ago, on another Kabbala-centered trip.

"I can't believe that I'm celebrating the new year with you in Israel," Ma'ariv quoted her as telling Peres on Saturday. "It's a dream come true."


TOPICS: Current Events; Judaism; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 09/17/2007 11:23:57 AM PDT by Alouette
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2 posted on 09/17/2007 11:24:25 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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"It is a known fact in Kabbala that impurity and evil are inherently attracted to sanctity."

Oh, SLAP!

Thinking about it, that also kinda explains Hillary's desire to get into the Oval Office.

3 posted on 09/17/2007 11:27:08 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Alouette

“Nothing up this sleeve...nothing up this sleeve...abracadabra...shazzam!”


4 posted on 09/17/2007 11:36:21 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: Alouette

Madonna proclaiming herself an ambassabdor for Judaism and Kutcher claiming Kabbala had solved some of the most fundamental issues in his life and also made him a better actor.

The delusional capacity and narcissism of these entertainers is staggering. Madonna must be searching for some religious clothing she can wrap herself in which she can use at the same time to somehow justify her vile behavior, and poor Kutcher is just an airhead.

If these people aren’t parroting some script written by someone else they promptly announce to the world their insanity.


6 posted on 09/17/2007 12:01:48 PM PDT by bereanway (Hunter in '08)
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To: Alouette
"It is a known fact in Kabbala that impurity and evil are inherently attracted to sanctity," said a director of one of the most respected Kabbala yeshivot in Jerusalem who preferred that he and his institution remain anonymous.

"That's why people of Hollywood, a place of iniquity and lasciviousness, are naturally attracted to the holiness of Kabbala."

This is the same principal, btw, which explains why the forces of evil always insist on building abominations on the site of the Holy Temple.

Rabbi Yitzhak Batzri, son of Jerusalem-based kabbalist David Batzri, head of the Shalom Yeshiva, said that it was forbidden to teach Kabbala to non-Jews such as Madonna.

That's what I thought!

"Even Jews are not allowed to delve into the secrets of the Kabbala until they have thoroughly reviewed the entire Talmud and the legal commentaries, and also scrupulously adhere to all the commandments," added Batzri.

Dern tootin'!

The singer, who is not Jewish, met Peres at his official Jerusalem residence on Saturday evening, and the two exchanged gifts, with Madonna receiving a lavishly-bound copy of the Old Testament.

"Old testament?" Isn't that that hateful redneck book that is directly responsible for all the crimes ever committed by "western civilization" against "indigenous pipples?" I thought Hollywood hated that book!

Wonder if Madonna's copy has Genesis in it? Or Leviticus 18?

7 posted on 09/17/2007 12:08:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shabbat Shabbaton hi' lakhem, ve`inniytem 'et-nafshoteykhem; chuqqat `olam.)
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To: Alouette

A friend who likes to follow trash sent us a picture over the weekend of Madonna coming out of a sex shoppe somewhere in Israel. I was going to post the picture... you can see what’s in the bag. I’m not going to profane the thread like that though.


8 posted on 09/17/2007 12:11:06 PM PDT by ichabod1 ("Self defense is not only our right, it is our duty." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Alouette

Good for the rabbis! Madonna (what an insult to one of the titles of BVM) is nothing but rich trollop/tart/guttersnipe whose lifestyle (and “music”) would make Delilah and Jezebel blush. Peres gave her a copy of the Hebrew Bible?!?!?! I hope she reads it and wakes up to how offensive her lifestyle/music is to the Almighty. Either that, or she’ll melt while she holds it.


9 posted on 09/17/2007 12:11:38 PM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Mystisism sells regardless of how it is wrapped, doesn’t it?


10 posted on 09/17/2007 12:48:00 PM PDT by Augustinian monk (Peace if possible, truth at all costs- Martin Luther)
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To: Augustinian monk

mysticism


11 posted on 09/17/2007 12:48:38 PM PDT by Augustinian monk (Peace if possible, truth at all costs- Martin Luther)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Shazzaaam!

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12 posted on 09/17/2007 1:32:06 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Alouette

Only in America and the UK girl from Detriot could go from being Italian cathoic pop singing HO to Brit accent talking Mother claim to be Jewish in one DECADE Alouette LOL!


13 posted on 09/17/2007 2:40:12 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Convert from ECUSA
She has no shame.


14 posted on 09/17/2007 3:05:56 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

Is that a target?My eyesight is fading due to old age.


15 posted on 09/17/2007 3:13:34 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Alouette
Madonna arrived in Israel Wednesday night, the eve of the New Year, with her film director husband, Guy Ritchie, to attend a Kabbala conference.

Other celebrities who flew in for the event included movie star Demi Moore and her husband, actor Ashton Kutcher, ex-talk show host Rosie O'Donnell and fashion designer Donna Karan.

It's not bad enough for Israel to be targeted by Arab terrorists all the time, they also have to put up with Madonna, Demi Moore, and {{{Rosie O'Donnell}}}! Somedays life just seems so cruel and unfair....

16 posted on 09/17/2007 4:37:03 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Alouette

Would she were actually nailed to it.


17 posted on 09/17/2007 7:58:54 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Convert from ECUSA; Alouette
Good for the rabbis! Madonna (what an insult to one of the titles of BVM) is nothing but rich trollop/tart/guttersnipe whose lifestyle (and “music”) would make Delilah and Jezebel blush.

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be better to invite her in have her sit down and then lecture her on how her behavior is in violation of their religious principles?

18 posted on 09/18/2007 6:48:37 AM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: onedoug
does she know that Peres is, well, anti-religious.
19 posted on 09/18/2007 9:13:36 AM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that.... www.fred08.com)
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To: APRPEH; Thinkin' Gal
Madonna’s latest concert tour ‘Confessions’ begins with the sounding of the shofar. She then launches into ‘Future Lovers’ There’s no love, like the future love, I.E. The Shekinah.

In the evidence of it’s brilliance…

The Zohar

But then the Orthodox (from any group) are way behind the curve and can’t seem to grasp Hashem’s sense of humor. What better to convert an Italian American Catholic woman with the stage name Madonna to Judaism? And that’s the only reason to take a Hebrew name btw. Please figure it out.

See for yourself…

Madonna Future Lovers Confessions Tour

Future Lovers

I'm gonna tell you about love
Let's forget your life
Forget your problems
Administration, bills, and loans
Come with me

In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance

In the demonstration of this evidence
Some have called it religion
This is not a coincidence
Would you like to try?

Connect to the sky
Future lovers ride
Their ambitions high
Would you like to try?

Let me be your guide
Put aside your pride
Future lovers hide
Love inside their eyes

In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance

Not controlled by time
Future lovers shine
For eternity
In a world that's free

Put away your past
Love will never last
If you're holding on
To a dream that's gone

I'm gonna tell you about love
Would you like to try?

In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance
In the evidence of its brilliance

There's no love like the future love

Come with me

Connect to the sky
Future lovers ride
Their ambitions high
Would you like to try?

Connect to the sky
Future lovers ride
(In the evidence of its brilliance,
in the evidence of its brilliance)
There ambitions high
Would you like to try?
(In the evidence of its brilliance,
in the evidence of its brilliance)

Connect to the sky
Future lovers ride
(In the evidence of its brilliance,
in the evidence of its brilliance)
Their ambitions high
Would you like to try?
(In the evidence of its brilliance,
in the evidence of its brilliance)

Brilliance
Brilliance
Brilliance
Brilliance

In the evidence of its brilliance

***

Isaiah 55

1 “Ho! Everyone who thirsts, Come to the waters; And you who have no money, Come, buy and eat. Yes, come, buy wine and milk Without money and without price.

2 Why do you spend money for what is not bread, And your wages for what does not satisfy? Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, And let your soul delight itself in abundance.

3 Incline your ear, and come to Me. Hear, and your soul shall live; And I will make an everlasting covenant with you— The sure mercies of David.

***

Madonna isn’t afraid to spread the message…

20 posted on 09/18/2007 10:59:44 AM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (Saturn is in Leo)
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