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To: ODDITHER
There is nothing in the Book of Mormon that contradicts the bible.

Perhaps you can explain what I see as a serious inconsistency in Mormon theology.

Here it is:

"I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity" (Moroni 8:18).

"For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today and forever, and in him there is no variableness, neither shadow of changing? And now, if ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who doth vary, and in whom there is shadow of changing, then ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who is not a God of miracles" (Mormon 9:9-10).

"Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true God. And you have got to learn how to be Gods yourselves--to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done--by going from a small degree to another, from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you are able to sit in glory as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power." - King Follett Discourse

Moroni and Mormon describe God as immutable and unchanging. TheKFD shows something else. How can you believe that God is at the same time immutable and changing, that from all eternity he was as he now is, but he somehow evolved from a mere mortal?

God evolved or he didn't. Mormans seem to have it both ways.

How is this possible?

31 posted on 09/16/2007 5:46:59 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Choose life!)
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To: FatherofFive
You the KFD obsessed one

HW: Would you agree the other huge idea is an embodied God?

DHO: The first revelation received by Joseph Smith was the appearance to him of the Father and the Son — embodied, separate, identifiable, tangible Beings who appeared to him in what we refer to as the First Vision. And that first revelation, concerning the nature of God as an embodied, glorified, resurrected Being, challenged the creeds of Christianity. Christianity describes God as a disembodied, incomprehensible, spiritual entity that fills the whole universe, and an indistinguishable Father and Son.

HW: A big idea! Any other idea that was startling and got people’s attention?

DHO: Before the close of his ministry, in Illinois, Joseph Smith put together the significance of what he had taught about the nature of God and the nature and destiny of man. He preached a great sermon not long before he was murdered that God was a glorified Man, glorified beyond our comprehension, (still incomprehensible in many ways), but a glorified, resurrected, physical Being, and it is the destiny of His children upon this earth, upon the conditions He has proscribed, to grow into that status themselves. That was a big idea, a challenging idea. It followed from the First Vision, and it was taught by Joseph Smith, and it is the explanation of many things that Mormons do — the whole theology of Mormonism.

HW: Is it the core of it?

DHO: That is the purpose of the life of men and women on this earth: to pursue their eternal destiny. Eternal means Godlike and to become like God. One of the succeeding prophets said: “As man is, God once was. And as God is, man may become.”

That is an extremely challenging idea. We don’t understand, we’re not able to understand, all [about] how it comes to pass or what is at its origin, but it explains the purpose of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is to put people’s feet on the pathway to a glorified existence in the life to come that is incomprehensible, but far closer to God than the Christian world generally perceives.

33 posted on 09/16/2007 6:38:05 AM PDT by restornu (No one is perfect but you can always strive to be honest in all of your dealings!)
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To: FatherofFive

Because you asked a reasoned question instead of attacking, I will try to answer your question.

If you believe in the trinity then this would be hard to understand. We believe the Godhead is made up of three separate beings God the eternal father, Jesus Christ and the Holy ghost.

I you read the entire Moroni 9 then you see he is talking about Christ and God. God being the eternal Father and Jesus Christ his son.
If you have a Book of Mormon read the the correlating references found in the Old and New testament for chapter nine.


35 posted on 09/16/2007 8:14:34 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: FatherofFive

“How is that possible?”

Good question. One answer may be found by dropping the last letter from the name of the Angel Moroni.

Cordially,

A.


43 posted on 09/16/2007 11:12:00 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Padron@Anniversario)
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