This Dream of God is What Drives Me (commentary on ECUSA's Presiding Bishop Schori address)

Off The Record ^ | September 12, 2007 | Diogenes

[jjm2111]

What IS modern Episcopal theology? I went on their website and couldn’t find anything other than some squishy social justice stuff that no one would disagree with.

[Tax-chick]

Well, you have to do your doctorate on some miniscule point in the subject. And at least squid and oysters are tasty and nutritious!

[Lee N. Field]

I think I’d prefer to read Dick’s half-mad, recursive ramblings than Shorri’s for entertainment. Then I’ll look to the Bible and Godly men for truth.

Dick was defiantly a loon, but an entertaining one.

[madprof98]

Schori was raised a Roman Catholic

Aren't they all? Sigh!

[Mad Dawg]

Thanks for the ping. I escaped in time.

[Mad Dawg]

What IS modern Episcopal theology?

Bingo!

The Church as a whole resists having an articulable dogma. One of the things that lead me to leave was when a layman asked me for a book that had an authoritative account of what TEC believes and teaches and I realized there wasn't one.

[jacero10]

“What IS modern Episcopal theology? I went on their website and couldn't’t find anything other than some squishy social justice stuff that no one would disagree with.”

This link will tell you all you need to know about ECUSA “theology.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBfKYFQHcg0

BTW, yes there are a few conservative Episcopalians left, but they are holding out for property. Funny, they are in the same position as faithful Catholics were in Tudor England. Catholic priests were lucky if they just avoided slaughter and these guys want to take their property with them. If they get their property, there are a few thousand churches and grand Cathedrals in England which rightfully belong to Rome!!

[elpadre]

I found it on Google - will have to locate entry

[dighton]

As I recall, according to the Hindus the world is actually Brahma's dream, and when he wakes, the world will end.

Once upon a time, I could have passed an easy test on the subject.

By human calculation, a thousand ages taken together is the duration of Brahma’s one day. And such also is the duration of his night.

When Brahma’s day is manifest, this multitude of living entities comes into being, and at the arrival of Brahma’s night they are all annihilated.

Again and again the day comes, and this host of beings is active; and again the night falls, O Partha, and they are helplessly dissolved.

Yet there is another nature, which is eternal is and transcendental to this manifested and unmanifested matter. It is supreme and is never annihilated. When all in this world is annihilated, that part remains as it is.

— Bhagavad-gita 8:17-20, Bhaktivedanta translation.

[tioga]

God is a “dream”? OKie dokie........good thing she left.

[Patriotic1]

Hough said that Jefferts Schori's election is a "prophetic statement to the church and the world at a time when aggressive misogyny has reared its ugly head in many Christian communions, determined to restore the full grip of male hegemony in the leadership of Christian Churches."

What on earth?!?

[AnAmericanMother]

Well, there ya go.

My only exposure to Hindu doctrine was a free copy of "The Bhagavad-gita As It Is" by whoever the Hare Krishna head honcho was at the time. That, and Kipling (who grew up in primarily Muslim territory anyhow.)

[PAR35]

Ping. The presiding priestess’s address at Union is garnering some discussion here, and I didn’t see where you all had been pinged yet.

[sionnsar]

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[Saint Reagan]

Actually modern Episcopal theology can be summed up quite nicely: The only sin is failing to condone the sins of others. (or as they would put it, intolerance)

[Honorary Serb]

The New World Order feminazi heretic Katharine Jefferts-Schori (NWOFHKJS?) is no theologian, and is totally un-original. She just lifts the concept of “the dream of God” from the “progressive Christian” horde, especially Marcus Borg:

http://www.ird-renew.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=fvKVLfMVIsG&b=399595&ct=3286097

Another member of the “dream of God” crowd is the lesbian Episcopal activist Susan Russell. The way that I heard of the “dream of God” was that the ELCA propaganda magazine “The Lutheran” had an article by Borg a few months ago. It figures.

What is the progresives’ so-called “dream of God?” It is a world of “social justice”, which we are called to help build. If that is all that God is about, then Barabbas was right, and Jesus was wrong. But Jesus rejected the role of social revolutionary, went to the Cross, died for our sins, conquered death and Satan, and will come again to bring a new heaven and a new earth. It is God who builds His Kingdom, not us. And the “kingdom” that the progressives want to buiid is not God’s Kingdom, but the brutal, tyrannical New World Order!!!!

[meandog]

My standing proposal is that we trade all the Catholic loonytoon Jesuits, short-haired lesbian priestess wannabes, reiki practitioners, lounge music directors, and a liturgical dancer to be named later, for any orthodox Christians still residing in ECUSA/TEC.

Trade us/me to where? The church of fairy-tale believing, polytheistic Pharisees of the current candidate you're currently supporting to be POTUS?

[jjm2111]

The Church as a whole resists having an articulable dogma. One of the things that lead me to leave was when a layman asked me for a book that had an authoritative account of what TEC believes and teaches and I realized there wasn't one.

That's what I thought. I actually found a liberal Episcopal blog and it was about homos, homos, homos.

[Mad Dawg]

Okay, that was fabulously vituperative, but unclear.

[Mad Dawg]

When I was a priest in that Church, I wanted to teach and proclaim NOT my opinion but what the Church taught, about God ‘n Jesus ‘n stuff. It seems that all they now have a the “ ‘n stuff”, and the “God ‘n Jesus” part is sort of fading into the background. My seminary just sent out a “journal” with a whole bunch of writing about a “Theology of Water”, which came down to: Filthy Capitalists are ruining and selfishly using the worlds water while AIDS victims are thirsty — or something along those lines.