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Presbyterians merely rebuke minister who married lesbians
OneNewsNow ^ | 9/2/07 | AP

Posted on 09/02/2007 11:56:32 AM PDT by wagglebee

SAN FRANCISCO - A Presbyterian minister has received the lightest possible punishment after being found guilty of violating church law by officiating at the weddings of two lesbian couples.

A regional judicial committee of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) ruled that the actions by the Reverend Jane Spahr of San Rafael, California, were at odds with the denomination's constitution.

But the court gave Spahr the mildest penalty it could -- a rebuke -- which amounts to a warning not to do it again. She could have been removed from ministry.

Spahr, who came out as a lesbian three decades ago, is retiring from ministry anyway, but says she'll appeal the court's ruling.


TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anythinggoes; femaleclergy; homosexualagenda; pcusa; presbyterian; religiousleft; samesexmarriage
The slippery slope continues to get steeper.
1 posted on 09/02/2007 11:56:34 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 09/02/2007 11:56:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
A Presbyterian minister has received the lightest possible punishment after being found guilty of violating church law by officiating at the weddings of two lesbian couples.

I'm surprised that a Presbyterian minister received any punishment at all after decades ago the Presbyterian church supported the defense of the felon Angela Davis via contributions achieved by the passed around service donation plate.

3 posted on 09/02/2007 12:23:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: wagglebee

What can you expect from women “ministers”? Many of them are lesbians themselves. All of them are breaking God’s proscriptions against women being ministers.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 1:01:24 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

It’s a shame. The PCA had a church in San Fran that took off and grew. It left in order to have women deacons and elders . . .

To keep a conservative church in a non-conservative area you really need to make sure of who a person is before you make them a full church member.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 1:11:53 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

PCA and PCUSA are very different Presbyterian groups. Perhaps it was a PCUSA church you were talking about in San Francisco.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 1:44:09 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: Tai_Chung

Nope, City Church in S. Fran. was PCA left to allow women as deacons and elders.


7 posted on 09/02/2007 1:48:29 PM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: wagglebee
This Rev. Spahr? The one who thinks we're too hung up on the lordship of Jesus, and need to be reverencing "Sophia" instead?
8 posted on 09/02/2007 4:23:19 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalism -- threat or menace?")
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To: wagglebee; rightwingintelligentsia

John Calvin and his buddy John Knox must be so proud.

PCUSA is shrinking like flannel in hot water.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 4:26:38 PM PDT by IslandJeff (Matthew 28: 19-20)
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To: IslandJeff
And Jane Spahr was originally a Pittsburgher, so we know all about her.

This is what happens when you cultivate "Big Tent" Presbyterianism.
10 posted on 09/02/2007 4:56:59 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (You know a liberal has lost the argument when he calls you a Nazi.)
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To: Greg F
It’s a shame. The PCA had a church in San Fran that took off and grew. It left in order to have women deacons and elders . . .

I'm not sure what that statement even means. You are saying that the church left San Francisco? Or did the church leave the PCA? What did you mean, exactly?

11 posted on 09/03/2007 6:33:25 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: wagglebee
Their fate...


12 posted on 09/03/2007 10:54:07 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Sans-Culotte

The church left the PCA.


13 posted on 09/04/2007 4:31:45 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

OK. That makes sense. Good riddance to that church. I guess the chances of a PCA church making it in Sa Fran were pretty much nil from the start.


14 posted on 09/04/2007 7:28:33 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte

It’s sad though to lose a little beacon like a PCA church in San Fran. What about the poor families and Christians that are in the city? I hope they go with home churches. You need a conservative church that doesn’t step onto the slippery slope there at all for it to survive. After the women deacons and elders will come women preachers, then marinate that social liberalism for a while in San Francisco and you know where they will go with their treatment of the homosexuality issue.


15 posted on 09/04/2007 7:33:30 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F
It is sad that the church was apparently eaten up by the 5th columnists in its midst. However, that church was in the Sodom of the modern era. That it survived for a time is a wonder.

Here in Houston, TX it is also pretty difficult to find a church that has not been eaten up with moral relativism. My wife and I are still searching after seeing our PC USA church of many years go down the tubes. We are trying to find a PCA church we like, and they are few and far-between.

16 posted on 09/06/2007 7:15:18 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: Sans-Culotte

You’ve probably found this already, but here is a link to the directory of PCA Churches.

http://www.pcanet.org/directory.asp

We love our PCA church here in Florida.


17 posted on 09/07/2007 5:15:52 AM PDT by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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