Each Sunday, our pastor offers up the Divine Liturgy for the deceased requested by various parishioners + the souls in Purgatory. When you pray the Rosary, offer up one decade for these souls. They will benefit enormously and be praying for you in your time of need.
Each Sunday, our pastor offers up the Divine Liturgy for the deceased requested by various parishioners + the souls in Purgatory. When you pray the Rosary, offer up one decade for these souls. They will benefit enormously and be praying for you in your time of need.
Will you first shed some light on what the “Apocrypha”
is? I ask Catholics all the time what it is and
not a soul is able to tell me. Why is this?
I am a Protestant and I find this very interesting. Like the poster above, I’d like to know more about the Apocrapha (sp?).
Why did Protestant denominations get rid of it?
I.e., the blood of Jesus isn't sufficient to forgive sins. You still gotta take some licks for the stuff that's even beyond the reaches of the cross.
We Mormons have a similar doctrine. We believe that the wicked who die in their sins are sent to hell to suffer the penalty for their rebellion. In the Final Judgment, the inhabitants of hell are brought forth to receive their eternal reward. The majority go on to inherit a kingdom of glory; however, the most hardened—those who willfully sin against the Holy Ghost— remain in hell (sometimes called "Outer Darkness") with Satan and his angels.
Although the Catholics say "Purgatory" and we say "hell," it appears that the two serve similar purposes. The principal difference seems to be the explanation of what happens after the Final Judgment. The catechism mentions one Heaven; we believe that there are three Heavens or degrees of glory. Those who suffer for their sins in hell may go on to the lowest degree, but are not allowed to live with God the Father and Jesus Christ in the highest.
So, if purgatory exists, Hell must not (at least for mere mortals). If my sins can be punished by a stay in purgatory, why did GOD even create a Hell … just for Satan and his fallen angels?
If my sins can be forgiven bya stay in purgatory, why did GOD send his only begotten Son to save us? Jesus would have better spent his time overseeing purgatory than dying on a cross.
Read any of Maria Simma’s book about the souls in Purgatory.
One is “Get Me Out of Here”
The Early Church Fathers on Purgatory - Catholic/Orthodox Caucus
You either believe on Christ and become "born again" spiritually or you don't.
That's a direct contradiction to (2 Machabees 12:39-46) There's no inbetween
this state of being. Christ is the only one who could have been crucified to rid the
sins of the world, it would make absolutely no sense for people to hang out in
"Purgetory" waiting for further judgement or be prayed upon to rid their sins,
and there is no scriptural basis for it. The reason the early church rejected the
Apocrypha is because it was in direct contradiction to Christ's teachings.
You can't be seperated from God and then go and be temporarily punished
and become "born again" after that.
bump
NYer,
Many of the replies to this thread would indicate that it might be time to start caucusing these catechism excerpts. Matthew 7:6 and all that. It is not right to subject holy things and God’s providential plan for mankind to unnecessary attack. None of the topics treats to non-Catholic denominations, so the series is perfect for a caucus designation. I hope you consider it.