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Heresies then and now: ancient Christian heresies practiced in modern times
The Watchman Expositor ^
| 1999
| Jason Barker
Posted on 07/24/2007 2:24:56 PM PDT by MarkBsnr
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To: MarkBsnr
What do you call the heresy that claims that since Jesus was supposed to be sinless and perfect, he could not have been born of the human race and, therefore, was a specially created human embryo implanted in Mary’s uterus but not genetically of human lineage from Adam and Eve?
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posted on
07/24/2007 6:39:03 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: MarkBsnr
It looks like the author forgot to mention the damnable heresy of Calvinism. Must have been a oversight on his part
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posted on
07/24/2007 6:52:46 PM PDT
by
bremenboy
(Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
To: MarkBsnr
Judaizers 1st Century Judaizers, or the Judaizing movements, is not a condemnation of Judaism or ethnic Jews. Instead, it has historically been the label for those who attempt to make observing the Mosaic Law a requirement for Christianity and salvation. The book of Acts refers to such people as they of the circumcision (Acts 10:45; 11:2), and the council at Jerusalem decisively ruled against them (Acts 15:2329).
Despite this biblical ruling, Judaizing movements continue to grow in our time. These movements require such things as strict observance of the Sabbath on Saturday, mandatory tithing, observance of the Jewish feasts, and other regulations in order for a Christian to earn salvation.
Scriptural Refutation: Romans 3:2428. This is accurate as far as it goes...which isn't very far. Most sabbatarians and those who observe God's other biblical holy days do not observe them to "be saved". Rather, we observe them BECAUSE we are saved and wish to honor and serve the Lord by living in obedience to Him.
The article makes it sound horrible to follow the bible instead of Christian tradition. Christian tradition is the author of Sunday observance and the observance of holidays such as Easter and Christmas. God specifically tells his followers which days he created holy, the 7th day sabbath being but one.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
To: MarkBsnr
These movements require such things as strict observance of the Sabbath on Saturday, mandatory tithing, observance of the Jewish feasts, and other regulations in order for a Christian to earn salvation.These are heresies? LOL.
Of course they're not necessary for salvation, but they are obedience to God's word, which does bring its own blessings.
Especially regarding the Sabbath... if that Commandment can so easily be tossed why should one follow the other nine?
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posted on
07/24/2007 7:39:13 PM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
To: DouglasKC
Evening, FRiend. We meet again.
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posted on
07/24/2007 7:45:48 PM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
To: AnnaZ
Evening, FRiend. We meet again. We do. :-)
Good morning and thank you for your defense of God's sabbath.
To: DouglasKC
Good morning and thank you for your defense of God's sabbath.Good morning. And thank you for getting here first.
= )
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posted on
07/25/2007 6:26:22 AM PDT
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AnnaZ
(I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
To: bremenboy
Whats “damnable” about it?
To: TradicalRC
You’ll have to ask Pelagius; I certainly am no expert!!!!
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:15:49 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: aruanan
Didn’t the Raelians pick up and run with this one?
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:17:50 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: bremenboy
Luther, Calvin and Zwingli. The unholy Trinity.
How many souls have been led astray with their heresies?
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:23:34 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: MarkBsnr
A better question is, “How many souls have been brought into God’s Kingdom through the reforms of these men?
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:46:37 AM PDT
by
Upbeat
To: DouglasKC
We believe that it is required to observe the entire Bible. There are a few instances where the NT overrides the OT, such as in the dietary laws. And there are instances where the Church has made a ruling, such as in the moving of the weekly holy day from Saturday to Sunday. There is Biblical justification for that move, such as the apostles sitting at table on the first day of the week, or even Jesus rising on the first day of the week.
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:49:25 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: AnnaZ
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:50:57 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: Upbeat
I believe that answer is extremely small. With the distortions and heresies promoted by these men and others, the message of Christ is extremely garbled and full of static.
I have no idea how many are neutral.
But by promoting heresies and distorting the message of Christ, I would think that many have gone onto the fast track to Hell. The ones believing in the get out of hell free card, for instance.
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posted on
07/25/2007 7:55:11 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: MarkBsnr
And there are instances where the Church has made a ruling, such as in the moving of the weekly holy day from Saturday to Sunday.I don't follow church rulings, just God's word.
Apostles may have met on the first day and Jesus may have risen on the first day, but they continued to go to Temple on the seventh.
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posted on
07/25/2007 8:04:29 AM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
To: AnnaZ
Jesus instructed us to follow His Church; He instructed Peter to look after us. I’d say that He instructed us Catholics to follow a new day of Christian worship as opposed to the Jewish Sabbath.
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posted on
07/25/2007 10:01:27 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: MarkBsnr
Id say that He instructed us Catholics to follow a new day of Christian worship as opposed to the Jewish Sabbath.And you Catholics have fun with that.
= )
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posted on
07/25/2007 10:13:35 AM PDT
by
AnnaZ
(I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
To: AnnaZ
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posted on
07/25/2007 10:29:32 AM PDT
by
MarkBsnr
(V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
To: DouglasKC; AnnaZ
The article makes it sound horrible to follow the bible instead of Christian tradition. Christian tradition is the author of Sunday observance and the observance of holidays such as Easter and Christmas. God specifically tells his followers which days he created holy, the 7th day sabbath being but one.Thank you for pointing this out.
These movements require such things as strict observance of the Sabbath on Saturday, mandatory tithing, observance of the Jewish feasts, and other regulations in order for a Christian to earn salvation.....Scriptural Refutation: Romans 3:2428.
It is not done to earn salvation. Rom.3:24-28 are about blood ordinances and they have been done away with, not His law.
Most sabbatarians and those who observe God's other biblical holy days do not observe them to "be saved". Rather, we observe them BECAUSE we are saved and wish to honor and serve the Lord by living in obedience to Him.
Amen. No where is it written those things have been done away with.
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