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To: Alex Murphy; annalex
Alex: No, at least one other in the crowd

annalex:

I am anti-RC doctrine but with at least two exception - Jesus is God as well as Son of God & anti-abortion. It appears to me that RC doctrine is a morphing of the Aronic Priesthood rather than completely superseeding it as Hebrews, for example, demands.

I have no intention to go to war I simply reject the RC doctrine that equates RC "membership" with the body of Christ (i.e. the true/invisible church).

13 posted on 07/23/2007 4:57:14 PM PDT by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: Dahlseide
The passage in Hebrews (you mean "there is no more an oblation for sin", Heb. 10:18, right?) does not contradict Catholicism in the least. This is what the comment in that verse is in Douay

18 "There is no more an oblation for sin"... Where there is a full remission of sins, as in baptism, there is no more occasion for a sin offering to be made for such sins already remitted; and as for sins committed afterwards, they can only be remitted in virtue of the one oblation of Christ's death.

You probably object to the theology of the Eucharist as sacrifice; however, the Eucharist is not making a new sacrifice.

14 posted on 07/23/2007 5:04:44 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Dahlseide

I hit Post too soon.

On your second part, the Catholic teaching is that anyone validly baptized is baptized Catholic, and therefore belongs to the Mystical Body of Christ, which is His Church. “Validly” here means in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, with water. In other words, most Protestant baptisms are valid and your ministers baptize into the Catholic Church. “Invisible Church” is an expression we don’t like because baptism is not invisible.

Now, what happens to that newly baptized who attends a Protestant community of faith? He does not follow up with a Catholic Church life and falls off. The picture is better for an Orthodox who maintains a Church life in obedience to his bishop, receives valid sacraments of confession and the Eucharist and so the ordinary means fo salvation are available to him, despite the unfortunate schism of the past 1,000 years.

This is the Catholic ecclesiology in a nutshell; I realize that you are likely to disagree, but I want you di disagree with what we really teach rather than with what you think we teach.


16 posted on 07/23/2007 5:17:27 PM PDT by annalex
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