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To: Dahlseide

I hit Post too soon.

On your second part, the Catholic teaching is that anyone validly baptized is baptized Catholic, and therefore belongs to the Mystical Body of Christ, which is His Church. “Validly” here means in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, with water. In other words, most Protestant baptisms are valid and your ministers baptize into the Catholic Church. “Invisible Church” is an expression we don’t like because baptism is not invisible.

Now, what happens to that newly baptized who attends a Protestant community of faith? He does not follow up with a Catholic Church life and falls off. The picture is better for an Orthodox who maintains a Church life in obedience to his bishop, receives valid sacraments of confession and the Eucharist and so the ordinary means fo salvation are available to him, despite the unfortunate schism of the past 1,000 years.

This is the Catholic ecclesiology in a nutshell; I realize that you are likely to disagree, but I want you di disagree with what we really teach rather than with what you think we teach.


16 posted on 07/23/2007 5:17:27 PM PDT by annalex
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To: NYer

Please consider applying your Catholic pinglist to this fine article.


17 posted on 07/23/2007 5:45:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Just say no to Rudy McRomney.)
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To: annalex
In other words I don't know what I am protesting?; just an irrational rant?

The only reason I jumped in was to attempt to present something that was not irrational; clearly I failed. Please let me disengage gracefully.

405 posted on 07/24/2007 6:23:42 PM PDT by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: annalex
Now, what happens to that newly baptized who attends a Protestant community of faith? He does not follow up with a Catholic Church life and falls off. The picture is better for an Orthodox who maintains a Church life in obedience to his bishop, receives valid sacraments of confession and the Eucharist and so the ordinary means fo salvation are available to him, despite the unfortunate schism of the past 1,000 years.

Pope Boniface VIII in his Bull Unam Sanctam issued in 1302:
"We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

It would seem that both Prots and Orthodox are damned.
407 posted on 07/24/2007 6:33:17 PM PDT by armydoc
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