[Cronos]

Who cares what official "Catechism" says?

You're funny. So, tomorrow, if some member of your grouping states that your grouping considers Christ as just one of a pantheon of Gods, or Christ as the demiurge, would you say that that was official dogma of your grouping?

de Montford is NOT Catholic dogma, and what you stated is not Catholic teaching, so you are reverting to the stereotypical Catholic baiter who says "you Catholics do . You say you don't? No, you don't know what you believe in, I say you . Stop trying to argue, I know better than you what you know and what you believe in. You believe in . Never heard of that and that you Catholics believe in that? See -- you Catholics yourselves don't know that you believe in . So, now listen to me, I'm telling you that you Catholics believe in -- I know better than you what you know"

[Alexius]

Good post.

Yes, it's the old 'Hey Catholic let me tell you what you believe and why you are an idiot for believing it.' All the while the Prot is either wrong or lying...so who's the idiot??

[DungeonMaster]

You're funny. So, tomorrow, if some member of your grouping states that your grouping considers Christ as just one of a pantheon of Gods, or Christ as the demiurge, would you say that that was official dogma of your grouping?

If those most respected in my group, so respected as to be called "God among us" and "Christ's vicar" and "the head of the church" went on pilgrimages to the grave of someone that said that, I'd pretty much have my orders wouldn't I? Christians don't honor heretics but great teachers. You can't have it both ways.

de Montford is NOT Catholic dogma, and what you stated is not Catholic teaching, so you are reverting to the stereotypical Catholic baiter who says "you Catholics do . You say you don't? No, you don't know what you believe in, I say you . Stop trying to argue, I know better than you what you know and what you believe in. You believe in . Never heard of that and that you Catholics believe in that? See -- you Catholics yourselves don't know that you believe in . So, now listen to me, I'm telling you that you Catholics believe in -- I know better than you what you know"

The behavior of your popes toward De Montfort is very much like the behavior of Obama to Jeramiah Wright. You can't deny the doctrine when you have the associations for 20 years or much more in the case of Popes honoring De Montfort.