However, I absolutely do judge the Catholic church, much as Peter judged Simon and his policies. 
Posted on 07/23/2007 3:36:15 PM PDT by annalex
...I suggest for starters, sir, that you try and get some sleep...then after that seek from medication from valid healthcare professionals...then after that, I don’t know, maybe just try to settle down a little bit...
“Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:1-3
18 ...thou war in them a good warfare, 19 Having faith and a good conscience, which some rejecting have made shipwreck concerning the faith (1 Timothy 1)
The Christian virtue is hope. Not despair and not presumption. An important part of the faith is that one can always repent a sin and restore communion with Christ:
17 If then any be in Christ a new creature, the old things are passed away, behold all things are made new. 18 But all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Christ; and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation. 19 For God indeed was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, not imputing to them their sins; and he hath placed in us the word of reconciliation. 20 For Christ therefore we are ambassadors, God as it were exhorting by us. For Christ, we beseech you, be reconciled to God.(2 Corinthians 5)
Why worry?
So Catholics are conditioned to not admit their Mary worship —even to themselves? Man we suck. Even satanists admit to selling their soul to the devil...we can’t even get that right. We must be the crummiest bunch of goddess worshippers ever!
Freegards
It is. Two times He point out the reasons of our veneration of Mary:
My mother and my brethren are they who hear the word of God, and do it (Luke 8:21, similar Matthew 12, Mark 3)Mary is to be venerated not for her physiological motherhood, but for her hearing the command of God and keeping the incarnate Word in her womb. We, men and women, can all follow the pattern she established and be sanctified with her. These alone would be sufficient scriptural basis of Marian devotions.Blessed is the womb that bore thee, and the paps that gave thee suck. But he said: Yea rather, blessed are they who hear the word of God, and keep it. (Luke 11:27-28)
But there is more: the last commandment of Christ before He gave up His spirit was to ask Mary to adopt His beloved disciple, thus establishing the mystical connection between Mary and His Church (John 19).
The Christ's walk on Earth as a baby begins, of course with Mary at his side. But also His ministry begins with what? -- an intercession by Our Lady (John 2), just how it ends.
When Satan fights his war on the Church, his vomit is directed at Our Lady. He "was angry against the woman: and went to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Apoc 12:17).
These are all scriptures that you are ignorant of.
If one doesn't know whether or not he is saved, whatever could this mean?
For example, when people tell you that they do not give offering to a statue and you continue to state that they do, what would you like it to be called?
Personally, I’ll call it Bearing False Witness.
Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)
However, I absolutely do judge the Catholic church, much as Peter judged Simon and his policies.
>>The reaction of Jesus to two separate calls to attend His mother is clear.<<
When spun just the way one sees it, without regard to other meanings of the words.
Yes.
I determine who my children are with by facts, not colored with my own bigotry.
My Goddaughter and her friends LOOK like goths. Purple hair, piercing in many places, lots of black and lots of leather. Should I let my children hang with them?
Yes! They are straight edges. No drugs, no drinks, into chastity and getting good grades. How do I know this? By their MySpace pages and what they say about each other.
I don’t judge people nor slam them by the way they “appear” to me.
You, however, may do what you like.
Are we calling our cat a dog again?
Mary is to be venerated not for her physiological motherhood, but for her hearing the command of God and keeping the incarnate Word in her womb. We, men and women, can all follow the pattern she established and be sanctified with her. These alone would be sufficient scriptural basis of Marian devotions.
Mary built the body to receive the Savior. We appreciate it. We venerate the One who inhabited the body she built.
Follow the pattern she established? Women, maybe; man don't have babies.
But there is more: the last commandment of Christ before He gave up His spirit was to ask Mary to adopt His beloved disciple, thus establishing the mystical connection between Mary and His Church (John 19).
Oh, please. Jesus asked John to take care of His mother for him.
John 2? The one where Mary wanted to see if Jesus could do a miracle (as she probably though He could, from her experience with Him), and He chose to do it, thus starting the miracles He did in the land?
So Mary got Him started? What of it?
What evidence do have that the woman in Revelation is Mary, since Revelation consists entirely of symbolism? What other caricatures symbolizing groups and events in Revelation do you think are actual, physical realities and not information carrying constructs?
It’s amazing how those who are so offended with Mariolatry are very often guilty of self-idolatry.
Is that really how your bible reads?
38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Two different ideas there.
Penance:
1. a punishment undergone in token of penitence for sin.
2. a penitential discipline imposed by church authority.
3. a sacrament, as in the Roman Catholic Church, consisting in a confession of sin, made with sorrow and with the intention of amendment, followed by the forgiveness of the sin.
No; that's Who you worship. Worship is what the holy Sacrifice of the Mass is for. Is it so difficult to figure out what words mean before you post your Protestant nonsense and put words you don't understand in other people's mouths?
man don't have babies
Exactly; but men can "hear the words of God and keep it" (Luke 11:28). This is the reason Jesus made his comments on venerating Our Lady: one does not have to be a woman to be a saint.
Jesus asked John to take care of His mother for him
So your interpretation of John 19:26-27 is that when saving mankind in agony on the Cross Jesus remembered to fix an economic arrangement He had neglected earlier? This is not what my Church teaches, and not what the Gospel says.
So Mary got Him started? What of it?
Is getting Him started by itself insignificant? This is a biblical sanction for intercession of saints. You asked for it.
What evidence do have that the woman in Revelation is Mary
Christ had more than one mother?
For the topic on hand, “repent” is fine. If you really want to know why “do penance” is more accurate, we can discuss that as well, as soon as we are done talking about assuredness of salvation.
Like I said, we can’t get nuthin’ right...you’d think that once in a while SOME brain-washed Catholics would break our psychic-bonds and own up to our Mary worship, and admit it, at least to fellow Catholics. But then they would be kicked outta the Church for being heretics...by all those other Catholics who haven’t shrugged off the cerebral Mary worshipping block. And then there’s the whole prideful problem of having to admit to non-Catholic Christians that “Yes, you had us pegged all along, we are goddess worshippin’ crazy cats!! See, here’s how I just started makin’ the sign of the Cross — Father, Mother, Son, Holy Spirit!”
Freegards
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