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Anti-Catholicism, Hypocrisy and Double Standards
ConstantinesRant ^ | Sunday, July 22, 2007 | Constantine

Posted on 07/23/2007 3:36:15 PM PDT by annalex

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To: DungeonMaster

I am serious.

YOU posted these..
“1. in a measure; to a certain extent; somewhat: rather good.
2. in some degree: I rather thought you would regret it.”

And what about the question of those children?


601 posted on 07/26/2007 7:22:33 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: DungeonMaster

If you don’t read the article(s), what are you doing here?


602 posted on 07/26/2007 7:25:50 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Running On Empty
If you don’t read the article(s), what are you doing here?

I skim.

603 posted on 07/26/2007 7:28:59 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: Running On Empty

>>If you don’t read the article(s), what are you doing here<<

It can’t be answering questions? Can it?


604 posted on 07/26/2007 7:30:55 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: annalex; highimpact; nanetteclaret; guppas; ExtremeUnction; ripnbang; starlifter; CincinnatiKid; ...
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605 posted on 07/26/2007 7:35:02 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: republican4ever
A little exageration, maybe?

The fact that you do not understand sarcasm does not equal anti-Semitism

I never heard this, ever!!!-

The fact that you never heard something does not equal anti-semitism.

Has the author ever stopped to think about how all of this might have some truth to itÂ… even if it is not an absolute, as nothing usually is?

Actually there is very little truth it in. The modern view of the Crusades is generally based on distortions and lies. Again that comment does not demonstrate anti-semitism.

Do I detect some sarcasm here?

Yes. I believe that was the point. Still no proof of anti-semitism.

By birth, yes, a child born to a Jewish mother is a Jew… but that does not guarantee the child will be a “practicing Jew”

Yeah, that was kind of the point of the statement. The same is true for Hitlers “Catholicism”. Being Baptized as an infant does not mean that every action to have for the rest of your life reflects on you being a Catholic.

1The Holocaust--A Guide for Pennsylvania Teachers Gary M. Grobman http://www.remember.org

I have not idea what you are trying to prove with that. You have yet to show anti-semitism from the author. Making such a charge is slanderous. Perhaps you should retract it.

606 posted on 07/26/2007 8:06:31 AM PDT by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: netmilsmom
It’s lying to make a point.

I say what I witness with my own eyes, and what I read with my own eyes of the reams of church doctrine regarding Mary posted on these threads. It all leads to an obvious conclusion.

You seem to think worshiping mere humans and images is OK so long as you don't think you are doing it in your heart, or church doctrine says that's not really what it is. I guess fornication or witchcraft is OK so long as your heart's not in it, yes?

607 posted on 07/26/2007 8:39:27 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: DungeonMaster

“I skim”.

I see. That explains a lot


608 posted on 07/26/2007 8:54:54 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: William Terrell

Spining facts to make a point coupled with lies by omission are tactics of the MSM.

Looks like you’re from Reuters.


609 posted on 07/26/2007 8:58:16 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: William Terrell

For the gazillionth time—”one” is NOT worshipping the blessed.

As for the scripture verses you offered: they have benn given so many times as proof of the claim that Mary wasn’t any different than any other believer.

I repeat what I wrote before; that it is a matter of your interpretation. It’s a matter of exegesis—a branch of theology which investigates and expresses the true sense of Scripture. Your interpretation is the one you put forward as authority. The interpretation of the Catholic Church differs in understanding of these texts. Are you prepared to say that your understanding is suprerior—because you say so?

“These are the words of Jesus. What other interpreation can one assign to them”?

Yours?

Or that of the Early Fathers of the Church?

Guess which I’ll take.


610 posted on 07/26/2007 9:11:08 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Running On Empty

Gee, ROE—next time do spellcheck.


611 posted on 07/26/2007 9:17:02 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: TASMANIANRED
I’m reading “Confessions” right now

I found it on the internet. Thanks for the recommendation.

http://ccat.sas.upenn.edu/jod/Englishconfessions.html

612 posted on 07/26/2007 9:21:41 AM PDT by NEWwoman
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To: Running On Empty

It’s not exactly like reading scripture.


613 posted on 07/26/2007 9:35:03 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: DungeonMaster
The view that sustained faith in Christ leads to eventual salvation is, of course, plain scripture (John 3:16f, Acts 16:31). The view that a single act of faith determines salvation without the individual's cooperating with grace is false and has no support. This is what the scripture says about faith and works:

6 [God] will render to every man according to his works. 7 To them indeed, who according to patience in good work, seek glory and honour and incorruption, eternal life: 8 But to them that are contentious, and who obey not the truth, but give credit to iniquity, wrath and indignation.

(Romans 2)

2 Grace to you and peace be accomplished in the knowledge of God and of Christ Jesus our Lord: 3 As all things of his divine power which appertain to life and godliness, are given us, through the knowledge of him who hath called us by his own proper glory and virtue. 4 By whom he hath given us most great and precious promises: that by these you may be made partakers of the divine nature: flying the corruption of that concupiscence which is in the world. 5 And you, employing all care, minister in your faith, virtue; and in virtue, knowledge; 6 And in knowledge, abstinence; and in abstinence, patience; and in patience, godliness; 7 And in godliness, love of brotherhood; and in love of brotherhood, charity. 8 For if these things be with you and abound, they will make you to be neither empty nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he that hath not these things with him, is blind, and groping, having forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10 Wherefore, brethren, labour the more, that by good works you may make sure your calling and election. For doing these things, you shall not sin at any time.

(2 Peter 1)

14 What shall it profit, my brethren, if a man say he hath faith, but hath not works? Shall faith be able to save him? 15 And if a brother or sister be naked, and want daily food: 16 And one of you say to them: Go in peace, be ye warmed and filled; yet give them not those things that are necessary for the body, what shall it profit? 17 So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself. 18 But some man will say: Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without works; and I will shew thee, by works, my faith. 19 Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou, that faith did co-operate with his works; and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God. 24 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?

(James 2)

there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity

(1 Corinthians 13:13)

Also see JUSTIFICATION: "BY FAITH ALONE"?.

614 posted on 07/26/2007 9:37:38 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
Oh rats, now I have to start worrying about losing my salvation. Let me see, how did I earn it in the first place?... Maybe I never did... Oh no who can reassure me that I am safe from God's wrath?

That was actually my first question after I got saved, "Now that I'm born again, can I die again". This is where it is important to know what salvation is. If one doesn't know that, then the answer doesn't make sense.

615 posted on 07/26/2007 9:46:51 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: nanetteclaret
I judge the Catholic church, which is merely an artificial entity created by man. If you share that judgement by your action, that's up to you.

616 posted on 07/26/2007 10:27:24 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: netmilsmom
The reaction of Jesus to two separate calls to attend His mother is clear.

617 posted on 07/26/2007 10:30:00 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: DungeonMaster

It isn’t a denomination.

Denominations are the man made entities that have split off from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

As these topics more than adequately demonstrate, it is beyond the capabilities of most people on their own, without the teaching authority of the Church, to be able to hold a good understanding of what Christianity is, what it stands for and what it requires.


618 posted on 07/26/2007 10:32:33 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: netmilsmom
I say what I see, ma'am. For it to be a lie, I must know it to be false. Do you think I know what I say to be false?

619 posted on 07/26/2007 10:39:58 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: Running On Empty
You pray to, bow a knee to, place on equal level with our Savior (mediatrix, co-redemptrix) I call it worship. What quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck must be a duck.

620 posted on 07/26/2007 10:43:51 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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