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To: jo kus
Actually, I have read a bit about Calvin, and it seemed that he believed in the infusion of righteousness in nearly a Catholic sense.

There is a subtle difference between "man's" will and "free" will. Here is an excellent passage by Calvin's on the two. It is rather long but these people sure like to write.


9,793 posted on 10/24/2007 6:19:40 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
I wrote: Actually, I have read a bit about Calvin, and it seemed that he believed in the infusion of righteousness in nearly a Catholic sense.

Harley responded: There is a subtle difference between "man's" will and "free" will. Here is an excellent passage by Calvin's on the two. It is rather long but these people sure like to write.

Sorry to say this, Harley, but I was not commenting on free will, but on infused righteousness. In other words, that man is actually changed inside, not just an external righteousness that is not really ours. We have been talking about Harley being righteous because of God's Spirit. I had thought that Calvin approached the Catholic point of view on that subject. Do you have any comment on that?

On free will, I do disagree with Mr. Calvin. I prefer Augustine and Aquinas.

Regards

9,803 posted on 10/24/2007 7:20:15 PM PDT by jo kus
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...... For in very truth it must needs be that a man must accept the grace of God. But the question is of knowing what is the first cause. And this is the power of the holy ghost, through which we are drawn to the obedience of God, according as he hath chosen and adopted us for his children before the foundation of the world. ......

Great passage by Calvin, Harley! Thank you so much for posting.

9,938 posted on 10/26/2007 3:41:25 PM PDT by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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