[jo kus]

I wrote: So why then can't you do anything righteous, Harley? Aren't you denying the ability of the Spirit to make a new creation?

You responded: That's the way it has been since the fall.

For the fallen, Harley, not for those who place their trust in God. Clearly, God has justified the ungodly - even you, if you repent and accept Christ. Your theology ignores God's Word.

"And to one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness". Romans 4:5

Regards

[HarleyD]

For the fallen, Harley, not for those who place their trust in God. Clearly, God has justified the ungodly - even you, if you repent and accept Christ. Your theology ignores God's Word.

We may be talking about two different things. I'm talking about our works so let me see if I can clarify. Those who are fallen can do nothing to please God. God makes us into new creatures. We do good things because Christ works through us. It is His work-not ours. All good things come from the Father.

"And to one who does not work but trusts him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness". Romans 4:5

Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Faith has to come to us from the Father. Once it comes to us then it is our faith that is reckoned as righteousness.