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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
The Bible is quite clear about the target of the atonement: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. (1 John 2:2 KJV)

I would suggest that this verse needs to be examined in relationship with Isaiah 63 which states:

God looked at those unbelieving Israelites as their Savior. These are the same people who "vexed His Holy Spirit" and rebelled. Psalms says they were unbelievers. But God still loved them and considered Himself their Savior, and He was right. (What else did you expect me to say?)

From His point of view He is the Savior of the whole world just as He claimed He was the Savior of Israel as He brought them out of Egypt. But those people perished. I believe John (and Peter's "..even denying the Master who bought them...") are talking about how God looks at man, but it isn't all inclusive. Christ blood only atones for those who He returns to His inheritance. Isaiah 63 shows that God considers Himself the Savior of even those who are perishing.

9,438 posted on 10/19/2007 12:33:58 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
Isaiah 63 shows that God considers Himself the Savior of even those who are perishing.

I must admit that I certainly didn't expect to hear YOU say THAT!!

What do you mean by it????

9,440 posted on 10/19/2007 12:40:02 PM PDT by xzins (If you will just agree to the murdering of your children, we can win the presidency)
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