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To: stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Athena1
Denying free will is un-Christian

Whew, I'm sure glad St.Calvin believed in free will or you might have called him un-christian.

8,063 posted on 10/03/2007 12:31:03 PM PDT by suzyjaruki (Why?)
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To: suzyjaruki
“Whew, I’m sure glad St.Calvin believed in free will or you might have called him un-christian.”

The mere thought of you calling Calvin a saint turns my stomach.

...And yes I do think of Calvin as un-Christian.

The devil is clever and cunning. He does not always show himself as the Hitler’s of the world. He also works through the John Calvin’s of the world

Calvin was guided by the devil in denying the true presence of Christ in Eucharist -Body ,Blood Soul and Divinity.

Even Luther was horrified by Calvin’s total depravity and the lengths he took it to.

The fact that Calvin would take total depravity to mean that man is so dreadful that Christ would never give us His true presence in Eucharist is the work of the devil.

John Calvin has robbed many Christians of Faith in the Blessed Sacrament

EVERY SINGLE EARLY CHURCH FATHER AND SAINT believed in Christ truly present-Body Blood Soul and Divinity in the Blessed Sacrament(there is NOT a single exception!)

This went virtually unchallenged for over 1500 plus years.

I view John Calvin as a “type” of anti-Christ.

8,148 posted on 10/03/2007 6:07:26 PM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: suzyjaruki; stfassisi; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
Whew, I'm sure glad St.Calvin believed in free will or you might have called him un-christian. I pray this wonderful prayer of St. Calvin and St John Knox edifies you all... The Prayer of Confession and the Absolution are from 1539; they were used by both John Calvin at Geneva and John Knox in Scotland.] Come now and let us make confession to God the Lord together; let everyone, with me, acknowledge our sin and shortcomings: Almighty God, eternal Father, we acknowledge and confess to you that we were born in unrighteousness. Our life is full of sin and transgression; we have not gladly believed your Word nor followed your holy commandments. For your goodness’ sake and for your name’s sake, be gracious unto us, we pray, and forgive us all our sin, which is very great. Amen. Let each of us come before the face of the Lord, confessing our own faults. Silent Prayer of Confession
8,414 posted on 10/06/2007 6:42:05 AM PDT by Athena1
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