[blue-duncan]

“And the fact that The Church survived 2000 years inspite of such “stewards”, shows that God is with The Church.”

The Masonic Order traces it foundation back even farther than that and in spite of all the occult influences it still survived with its liturgy. What does longevity prove? It could prove that the hierarchy has so much invested in its position that it just continues. the Preacher says there is a time for everything and perhaps “The Church’s” time is well past and it hasn’t figured it out.

[Cronos]

The Masonic Order traces it foundation back even farther than that and in spite of all the occult influences it still survived with its liturgy.

The "Masonic Order" dates from the 15th century merchant guilds and all of their "rites" and "beliefs" are essentially from the 18th and 19th centuries...