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To: MarkBsnr; xzins; blue-duncan; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; HarleyD; ...
Calvinism is based upon the premise that humans are evil descendents of Satan and that they don't deserve any better than to squat for eternity in hellfire.

Humans are the descendents of Satan???

LOL. That is a lie, Mark. You've lied about Calvinism for days now, so I'm not surprised the lies keep getting bigger and bigger.

God has created a bunch of people and is going to roast them, undeservedly, forever.

Undeservedly? The only people in hell are those who do not have faith in Jesus Christ. Do you disagree with that?

It makes me wonder what kind of mind, what kind of psychosis could come up with that.

I realize the counter-Reformation has to label all dissidents as enemies of Rome and in need of extermination, but your langauge is over the top...again.

"Cursed be the man before the Lord, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho." Joshua 6:26

"Since he was cursed who rebuilt Jericho, much more the man who labours to restore Popery among us. In our fathers' days the gigantic walls of Popery fell by the power of their faith, the perseverance of their efforts, and the blast of their gospel trumpets; and now there are some who would rebuild that accursed system upon its old foundations. O Lord, be please to thwart their unrighteous endeavours, and pull down every stone which they build. It should be a serious business with us to be thoroughly purged of every error which may have a tendency to foster the spirit of Popery, and when we have made a clean sweep at home we should seek in every way to oppose its all too rapid spread abroad in the church and in the world. This last can be done in secret by fervent prayer, and in public by decided testimony. We must warn with judicious boldness those who are inclined towards the errors of Rome; we must instruct the young in gospel truth, and tell them of the black doings of Popery in the olden times. We must aid in spreading the light more thoroughly through the land, for priests, like owls, hate daylight. Are we doing all we can for Jesus and the gospel? If not, our negligence plays into the hands of priestcraft. What are we doing to spread the Bible, which is the Pope's bane and poison? Are we casting abroad good, sound gospel writings? Luther once said, 'The devil hates goose quills,' and doubtless, he has good reason, for ready writers, by the Holy Spirit's blessing, have done his kingdom much damage. If the thousands who will read this short word this night will do all they can to hinder the rebuilding of his accursed Jericho, the Lord's glory shall speed among the sons of men. Reader, what can you do? What will you do?" -- From "Evening By Evening" by Charles Spurgeon


3,612 posted on 08/21/2007 6:49:09 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Whoa.

The doctrine of the predetermined is that the only people going to hell are the predestined to hell and the only people going to heaven are the predestined to heaven.

It doesn’t matter if I believe in Jesus or Heaven or Hell. If I’m on the list, then off I go. That is Calvinism. Calvinism says that no matter what I do or don’t do, my life and afterlife are determined. Where is the lie?

And that I utterly reject.


3,618 posted on 08/21/2007 7:12:03 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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