Whoa.
The doctrine of the predetermined is that the only people going to hell are the predestined to hell and the only people going to heaven are the predestined to heaven.
It doesn’t matter if I believe in Jesus or Heaven or Hell. If I’m on the list, then off I go. That is Calvinism. Calvinism says that no matter what I do or don’t do, my life and afterlife are determined. Where is the lie?
And that I utterly reject.
All men are fallen and all men deserve God's wrath. God has chosen some men to redeem by the sacrifice of His Son through faith in Jesus Christ. Those people will be given new eyes and new ears and a new heart with which to understand Scripture and recognize their salvation by Christ's atonement. That understanding, given them by the Holy Spirit, will permit them to live lives that glorify His name.
The rest of mankind will receive the punishment rightly due all of us.
There will be no one in hell who has received saving grace through faith in Christ. There will be no one in hell who doesn't "deserve it." And there will be no one in heaven who does "deserve it."
Read Ephesians 1 & 2 and Romans 8 & 9. Your argument is with Scripture, not me.
At least most Protestants on these threads try to understand the RCC and use things like New Advent as a foundation for our discussions.
You, OTOH, say absurd lies as if they were true, i.e. "Humans are evil decendents of Satan."
If you want to be taken seriously (and I have my doubts) you need to start debating the real issues and stop these idiotic diatribes.
I wanted to note this ridiculous line. Of course it matters. Everything in life hinges on our believing Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior.
The point Rome misses is that no man can have faith and be saved unless God first quickens his mind and regenerates his heart to enable him to believe.
Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." -- Ephesians 2:8-10"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Do you understand what Paul is saying here?
It's no surprise you're having trouble with this. Either God elects or men and magisteriums get together and presume to dole out bits and pieces of God's salvation to men seeking to earn God's favor. But unmerited grace just doesn't work that way...
"And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." -- Acts 13:48