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To: hosepipe
The illogic of purgatory is breathtaking.. not to speak of several other abstractions..

In 1Peter 3:19, Christ preached to the spirits in prison. What spirits? What prison? We will become pure spirits only after we die, so the spirits have to be the spirits of the dead. Prison cannot mean Heaven, and souls in hell are lost forever. Prison must mean a third place.

1Peter 4:6, the Gospel was preached "even to the dead". Again, where were these dead?

Matthew 12:32, "...but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him either in this world or in the world to come." This passage alludes to another world in which some sins will be forgiven. What other world? Again it could not be either Heaven or hell. Hebrews 12:23, "...and to the Church of the Firstborn who are enrolled in the heavens, and to GOD, THE JUDGE OF ALL AND TO THE SPIRITS OF THE JUST MADE PERFECT."

We see from Revelation 21:27 that nothing imperfect will enter heaven, and in Hebrews 12:23, the spirits of the just are made perfect. Revelation 22:14 shows that there will be a cleansing before admission to the tree of life and entrance through the gates of the city. Where will all of this happen if not in a third place?

3,208 posted on 08/20/2007 10:25:19 AM PDT by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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To: stfassisi
[.. In 1Peter 3:19, Christ preached to the spirits in prison. What spirits? What prison? We will become pure spirits only after we die, so the spirits have to be the spirits of the dead. Prison cannot mean Heaven, and souls in hell are lost forever. Prison must mean a third place. .]

What spirits?.. The nephlim or ANGELS.. fallen angels.. The reference is to before and during Noahs time(s)..

[.. 1Peter 4:6, the Gospel was preached "even to the dead". Again, where were these dead?..]

You quoted the verse WRONG,, "WAS preached to those that are NOW dead" is the proper rendering..

[.. Matthew 12:32, "...but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him either in this world or in the world to come." This passage alludes to another world in which some sins will be forgiven. What other world? Again it could not be either Heaven or hell. ..]

No it don't.. it says NOT forgiven.. because sin forgiveness is a NOW thing.. You've streached this verse wrongfully..

[.. Hebrews 12:23, "...and to the Church of the Firstborn who are enrolled in the heavens, and to GOD, THE JUDGE OF ALL AND TO THE SPIRITS OF THE JUST MADE PERFECT." ..]

A Non sequiter.. this does not relate.. The "church" does not forgive sin.. ever..

[.. We see from Revelation 21:27 that nothing imperfect will enter heaven, and in Hebrews 12:23, the spirits of the just are made perfect. Revelation 22:14 shows that there will be a cleansing before admission to the tree of life and entrance through the gates of the city. Where will all of this happen if not in a third place? ..]

Where and when will this happen?.. After being born again through sanctification(a process) after that.. and could be a purging of "things" in our minds and hearts during the conversion to a spiritual BODY.. But I don;t know neither do you or anybody else..

NOTE: purgatory was and is now pagan sillyness.. or worse.. and should be purged from christian contact.. Only ONE of many things that should be purged/flushed.. from apostate thought..

3,220 posted on 08/20/2007 10:53:50 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: stfassisi

good, LOGICAL, post


3,721 posted on 08/22/2007 11:20:00 PM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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