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To: kosta50
I said, or my meaning was, that the ultimate answer HAS TO BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE...........Show me where the Bible said that.

If He said, "follow no man", He said so for a reason. If we are not to follow man then who should we follow?

"Have you not read" - "It is written" - "I have foretold you all things"......All references to the Old Testament.

Mark 13:23. But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.

That was in warning about the end of days, not the Old Testament. How are we to know what He foretold us of? We must read it as it is written! As far as the references to the Old Testament do you think we should throw them out?

......Ping

2,569 posted on 08/16/2007 4:50:54 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong
How are we to know what He foretold us of?

He said "teach all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Goly Ghost."

He left the Church to tell us about it. In fact, the Church did exactly that, for 30-60 years after Christ, without the New Testament, by word of mouth, and ever since then, and always in the true tradition of the Gospels.

If He said, "follow no man", He said so for a reason

That's right, because the Jews expected Messiah to be a mortal man.

He gave his apsotles the keys to bing whatsoever on earth and it shall be bound in heaven. They, in turn, gave that promise by virtue of their privilegde to bind whatsoever, to their successors and their successors to their succesors until this day.

We know where the authority of our bishops comes from. It's in the Bible. But where does the autority of self-styles Protestant pastors and individuals come from? I don't see it in the Bible.

Since there is no authority from Chirst given to them, all those who follow those without authority actually follow men, including themsleves.

The Apostolic Church follows Christ by following the Gospels.

2,574 posted on 08/16/2007 8:12:28 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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