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To: Ping-Pong
How are we to know what He foretold us of?

He said "teach all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Goly Ghost."

He left the Church to tell us about it. In fact, the Church did exactly that, for 30-60 years after Christ, without the New Testament, by word of mouth, and ever since then, and always in the true tradition of the Gospels.

If He said, "follow no man", He said so for a reason

That's right, because the Jews expected Messiah to be a mortal man.

He gave his apsotles the keys to bing whatsoever on earth and it shall be bound in heaven. They, in turn, gave that promise by virtue of their privilegde to bind whatsoever, to their successors and their successors to their succesors until this day.

We know where the authority of our bishops comes from. It's in the Bible. But where does the autority of self-styles Protestant pastors and individuals come from? I don't see it in the Bible.

Since there is no authority from Chirst given to them, all those who follow those without authority actually follow men, including themsleves.

The Apostolic Church follows Christ by following the Gospels.

2,574 posted on 08/16/2007 8:12:28 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarkBsnr; Diego1618; D-fendr; Forest Keeper; Seven_0
He said "teach all nations and baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Goly Ghost."

Taken from Ps. 40:7 and taught in Heb.10:7: Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of Me) to do Thy will, O God."

This is where we find Him Kosta, as He told us, In The Book. (It is written - Have you read - I have foretold you)

So, when you say that He said, "teach all nations..." do you believe by that that we should not read His Word too? His Word is the foundation of His teaching.

In fact, the Church did exactly that, for 30-60 years after Christ, without the New Testament, by word of mouth, and ever since then, and always in the true tradition of the Gospels

"without the New Testament" - Yes, but they had the Old Testament, that was the Book He referred to when He said, "I come in the volume of the Book".

We can be taught by our teachers, churches, etc. and if we can't read or study on our own that would have to be enough. But....We can read, we can study, we can compare what we are taught with what He said. It is written for us to do that.

I've pointed out a few places on this thread where some things are written but not taught. These aren't minor teachings, little inconsequential matters, to be ignored. If I am wrong in what I believe they clearly tell us, the 3 ages of earth, what really happened in the garden, etc., then why are they written? What can they mean if not what I believe they teach us?

That's right, because the Jews expected Messiah to be a mortal man.

That isn't why He said to "follow no man".

We know where the authority of our bishops comes from. It's in the Bible. But where does the authority of self-styles Protestant pastors and individuals come from? I don't see it in the Bible.

Kosta, this is becoming a battle on different religions and I don't want to go there. As I told MarkBsnr, I don't know enough about religion to enter a conversation about them, nor do I want to. My points are not based on who teaches, or doesn't teach but rather on what is written.

........Ping

2,591 posted on 08/17/2007 11:01:19 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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