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To: Frumanchu; Diego1618; xzins; wmfights; D-fendr; Seven_0
There is nothing at all clear about it, friend. One has to ignore the plain reading of the verse and rely on inductive logic to garner support for it.

Surprisingly, I disagree - friend.

The common term for this rationale is gnosis, as in gnosticism.

Part of that would be fine with me: gnostic - knowing, a combining form meaning of knowledge, of recognition, as in diagnostic. However, you go too far with gnosticism: A system of mystical religious and philosophical doctrines, combining Christianity with Greek and Oriental philosophies, propagated by early Christian sects that were denounced as heretical.

Before throwing that word in my direction perhaps you should list a few of the doctrines or philosophies I have used that were not taken from the Word of God. Just one would do.

Whether you wish to admit it or not everything I have stated, everything, is written in His Word. It is there for us to understand. If you choose not to I assure you it does not bother me, friend.

If that's the case then you really do have a problem, because Diego's explanation is sorely lacking.

Perhaps you need to go back and reread. I would be happy to list the MANY scriptures again that tell us, without a doubt about the 3 ages and that Cain is not a son of Adam. However, I can tell from the tone of your post that it would be ignored.

The theory being put forth is simply devoid of anything approaching sound exegesis and does pretty radical violence to fundamental logical and hermeneutical principles.

Then turn your back on truth. It is your choice.

2,497 posted on 08/14/2007 4:34:25 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong
It is amazing. The Apostle Paul says Eve was "Wholly seduced" by Satan [II Corinthians 11:2-3]. The Apostle John says "Cain was of the wicked one" [I John 3:12]. [Genesis 3;13] Eve tells The Lord that Satan seduced her. [Genesis 3:15] speaks of Satan's seed and Eve's seed. [Genesis 3:16] speaks of Eve's conception and pregnancy.

Finally, in [Genesis 4:1]......Adam knew his wife!

But.....according to the experts......there is nothing to suggest Cain was not Adam's son.........!

Just what does it take to unwind centuries of mainstream false tradition?

I won't mention that Cain is never found in Adam's genealogy.

2,498 posted on 08/14/2007 5:06:57 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Ping-Pong; Diego1618; xzins; P-Marlowe; nobdysfool; Dr. Eckleburg
Surprisingly, I disagree - friend.

You are free to disagree, but I have put forth the arguments which undermine your position. Your position is neither explicitly stated in Scripture nor is it necessarily implicit. Your position relies upon inductive reasoning and ignorance of the Scriptural context in which the prooftexts appear.

Before throwing that word in my direction perhaps you should list a few of the doctrines or philosophies I have used that were not taken from the Word of God. Just one would do.

You will notice that I did not capitalize "gnosticism." That was intentional. The general term gnosticism refers to exactly what you presented: the need to get at a deeper meaning that isn't clear or obvious to the normal person.

Whether you wish to admit it or not everything I have stated, everything, is written in His Word. It is there for us to understand. If you choose not to I assure you it does not bother me, friend.

Not only do I disagree, but I am presenting clear evidence against it. You are certainly free to play the "well, what I say is true whether you think so or not, so neener neener" but at the end of the day the arguments you present have been shown to be insufficient and erroneous.

Perhaps you need to go back and reread. I would be happy to list the MANY scriptures again that tell us, without a doubt about the 3 ages and that Cain is not a son of Adam. However, I can tell from the tone of your post that it would be ignored.

Didn't take long for you to start looking for a way out. What the tone of my post should indicate is that I will not simply take you at your word, nor will I let your arguments go unchallenged. There is not only room for doubt of your position...not only cause for doubt...but an overwhelming call for doubt because the texts provided thusfar DO NOT state what you are claiming, either explicitly or necessary implication. I will be happy to continue proving just that so long as you continue to preach these false doctrines.

Then turn your back on truth. It is your choice.

I have the Truth, friend, and His Word stands against your heretical doctrines.

QED

2,517 posted on 08/15/2007 6:19:06 AM PDT by Frumanchu (Jerry Falwell: Now a Calvinist in Glory)
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