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To: Forest Keeper

Do you also believe that God ordained lucifer to sin and fall from heaven as equal importance to the Crucifixion of man’s Salvation?

Dear Brother...Don’t you see where this belief of ordination of sin eventually leads to?

11,432 posted on 11/26/2007 5:11:30 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)

It put God in control of all things.
Do you feel God is not in control of sin?

11,433 posted on 11/26/2007 5:17:08 PM PST by irishtenor (History was written before God said "Let there be light.")

To: stfassisi; kosta50; MarkBsnr; OLD REGGIE; irishtenor

Do you also believe that God ordained lucifer to sin and fall from heaven as equal importance to the Crucifixion of man’s Salvation?

I do know that God DID ordain that lucifer fall, but I'm not sure how to evaluate its importance. Without it, there would be no need for salvation (apparently). And without the crucifixion of course there would BE no salvation. If lucifer broke away against God's intent, then we have a very weak God indeed. Why should we believe in any of God's promises for the future if lucifer (or man) has the power to thwart what God wants?

Dear Brother...Don’t you see where this belief of ordination of sin eventually leads to?

It leads to our omnipotent God who always gets everything He wants, and Who carries out His preordained plan to perfection and without interference or set back.

11,469 posted on 11/27/2007 2:07:22 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)

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