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1 posted on 07/17/2007 3:49:37 PM PDT by NYer
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Lesson 2 of 43.


2 posted on 07/17/2007 3:50:34 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Alex Murphy

Catholic ping!


3 posted on 07/17/2007 3:52:07 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Nowhere does the Bible say that the Bible is the sole source of Christian teaching.  This fact refutes the classic Protestant teaching of "the Bible alone" (sola Scriptura ).  For more on this topic, see The Catholic Church proved by the Protestant Bible.

4 posted on 07/17/2007 3:58:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Bump! Vital reading for all.


6 posted on 07/17/2007 4:08:05 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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8.How can you get the true meaning of the Bible?
You can get it only from God's official interpreter, the Catholic Church.
"Understanding this first, that no prophecy of scripture is made by private interpretation." (2 Peter 1:20)

Peter 1:21 (KJV) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Verse 20 is not saying the Catholic church is God's official interpreter, it is saying that man didn't think up a prophecy: God did via the Holy Ghost.

8 posted on 07/17/2007 4:17:10 PM PDT by invoman
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The early Christians learned everything by Tradition, since only later on were some of the teachings of Jesus written down, the last writing being done at the end of the first century. That is, there was no New Testament in the early Church.

Isn't the New Testament the Old Testament fulfilled?

"Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle." (2 Thessalonians 2:14)

This was 1 letter written to 1 church. The word "epistle" here is singular. There were many letters written to lots of other churches. How do you know that when all these letters were put together ALL the "words" "tradations" needed for salvation were not included. In this scripture, Paul is speaking of this one particular epistle, not all epistle's wrote.

"Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of His disciples, which are not written in this book." (John 20:30)

If you go on and read the rest of this sentence in the next verse you get the whole meaning of the thought. That the things John wrote in his book, he choose to prove that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God. This scripture quoted does not mean that the things that were not written down included things we need to know as "teachings." It does not imply at all that there are things not written that are needed to be a true Christian. IMO, this scripture in this lesson is being taken out of context.

Becky

13 posted on 07/17/2007 4:42:07 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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2Ki 22:8 ¶ And Hilkiah the high priest said unto Shaphan the scribe, I have found the book of the law in the house of the LORD. And Hilkiah gave the book to Shaphan, and he read it.

2Ki 22:11 ¶ And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes.

2Ki 23:2 And the king went up into the house of the LORD, and all the men of Judah and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem with him, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the people, both small and great: and he read in their ears all the words of the book of the covenant which was found in the house of the LORD.

2Ki 23:3 ¶ And the king stood by a pillar, and made a covenant before the LORD, to walk after the LORD, and to keep his commandments and his testimonies and his statutes with all [their] heart and all [their] soul, to perform the words of this covenant that were written in this book. And all the people stood to the covenant.

One can hear the old priests crying out, “This book needs to be interpreted according to our tradition!”


14 posted on 07/17/2007 7:55:18 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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