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America's 50 Most Influential Churches
Church Report Online ^ | July 2007 | Church Report Online

Posted on 07/17/2007 1:33:44 PM PDT by Terriergal

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To: Salvation

Well, in spite of the fact that I have problems with Catholic doctrine, I do find it odd that they left them out. Probably because there aren’t any ‘big name’ Catholics on TV (e.g. seeking attention for themselves)


41 posted on 07/17/2007 7:15:22 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

IF the church doesn’t offer holy communion every week then who cares what they say or think?


42 posted on 07/17/2007 7:16:10 PM PDT by x_plus_one (As long as we pretend to not be fighting Iran in Iraq, we can't pretend to win the war.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I guess it all depends on how "influential" is defined?

BTW, I had the privilege of studying under him while in seminary, and he officiated at our wedding! I am truly blessed!

43 posted on 07/17/2007 7:16:15 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: dangus
The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints.

It's a participatory "roll up your shirtsleeves" church staffed by almost exclusively by an unpaid lay ministry, a church where worshippers are expected to show their love for God and Jesus Christ through service to others. There isn't a single Rick Warren-style "rockstar" among any of the leadership. No entertainment value to be had. No pressure to satisfy itching ears.

44 posted on 07/17/2007 7:21:04 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Xenalyte
Joel Osteen Teeth Whitener
45 posted on 07/17/2007 7:26:38 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Vision

lol you’re not serious...

I agree that asking the leadership isn’t the most scientific method of getting these results... but ... are you saying that Lakewood should be #1 in this survey...You’re not saying that Osteen is biblical? are you?


46 posted on 07/17/2007 7:28:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: JCEccles

I think you may be right. But another question is — is social justice/social gospel/social reform supposed to be what Christ’s church is focused on?


47 posted on 07/17/2007 7:29:27 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: dangus
“Megachurches” aren’t influential; sees are. People attend whatever megachurch they feel comfortable with.

Don't you mean "Mega-ecclesial communities"? ;-)

48 posted on 07/17/2007 7:38:22 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Terriergal

Sounds like a popularity contest to me!


49 posted on 07/18/2007 12:05:41 AM PDT by CANBFORGIVEN (! Corinthians 2:14)
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To: Terriergal

Yes. Salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

As for non-essential doctrines, I can live with some variation.


50 posted on 07/18/2007 3:14:26 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (The FairTax and the North American Union are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Terriergal

I sure am. The Lakewood message has been growing for 40 years and isn’t showing any sign of stopping.


51 posted on 07/18/2007 5:54:28 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: PAR35
I don't know about influential, but when you are able to write a check for $600 million to avoid trial, you are certainly one of the richest.

The TV news stated that most of this money will have to be loaned or donated. They do not have enough to write a $600 check.

52 posted on 07/18/2007 6:20:59 AM PDT by al_c
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To: zerosix

So far so good.


53 posted on 07/18/2007 7:29:56 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Terriergal

RE: “(*) Max Lucado recently resigned as Minister of the Oak Hills
Church in San Antonio.”

OK, I’ll be honest that I’m cynical enough to wonder what that is
all about.

Took a little searching, but it appears that a health concern is
the reason behind Max Lucado stepping down.
(But his writing career should see him through his retirement years!)

http://www.oakhillschurchsa.org/about/employment/seniormin.php


54 posted on 07/18/2007 10:00:32 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Vision

That equals biblical?


55 posted on 07/18/2007 10:01:07 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: VOA

Yeah, it would have piqued my curiosity too. But not much. I haven’t heard much strange about Max Lucado except his fluffy pretty shallow writing.


56 posted on 07/18/2007 10:02:04 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: ovrtaxt

Ever hear of file-cabinet orthodoxy? (e.g. we have a statement of faith that sounds pretty orthodox, but that’s not what we preach every Sunday)


57 posted on 07/18/2007 10:03:02 AM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: dangus
Most influential churches:

1. Roman Catholic Cathedral of Los Angeles


Influential, yes.

As for Roger Mahoney and his Taj Mahoney...
for good or for evil, that's a whole other question.
58 posted on 07/18/2007 10:04:11 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Terriergal
Let's just say the traditional religion you seem to be proud of doesn't work for me. BTW, if you see the Pope, tell him he's not speaking for God when he condemns the US role in Iraq, and he should be ashamed of himself.

Many people begin coming to God once they stop being religious, because there is only one master of the human heart— Jesus Christ, not religion.
59 posted on 07/18/2007 10:10:56 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: Terriergal
I haven’t heard much strange about Max Lucado except his fluffy pretty
shallow writing.


Yes, Lucado sure does seem to have found a niche in religional writing.

At least he hasn't yet been revealed to be a Ted Haggard.
And he does seem to be a pretty decent and unassuming type compared
to some (mainstream) Church of Christ preachers I've been
exposed to.
60 posted on 07/18/2007 10:15:19 AM PDT by VOA
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