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To: Eagle Eye; GiovannaNicoletta
"... but you cannot show any that clearly state that Jesus is God."

John 10:30

I and the Father are one.

131 posted on 07/15/2007 5:06:22 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

One what?

One single person, with multiple personalities?

Or one in purpose, with divine characteristics passed on from Father to only begotten Son?


135 posted on 07/15/2007 5:45:49 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (I love thy rocks and rills, thy woods and templed hills...)
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To: Enosh

I wish you wouldn’t be so insultingly simple in your attempts....

First, the challenge was to find a verse where it clearly said that Jesus is God in the same direct simple, clear terms as it says the he is a man.

But you opened another can of worms...how were Jesus and God one? By being identical? Absurd!

Jesus prayed to God (showing that they aren’t the same) that Jesus’ disciples would be one (does that make them gods, too?) even as they, Jesus and God, were one.

The key there is “as” which is a measure of comparison.

Obviously the disciples couldn’t be God to that is out of the question.

Jesus and God were united in purpose and will. Jesus had a separate will than God (not my will but thine be done) but was perfectly subjected and unified.

And that was Jesus’ prayer that his disciples would be perfectly subject and unified with God and each other just as Jesus was subject and unified with God.

Next?

Jhn 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we [are].
Jhn 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:


142 posted on 07/15/2007 6:35:45 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Size matters. Unless you got more than me.)
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