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Protestants and the Pope
Westminster Writings (Westminster Seminary California ) ^ | July/August 2005 | W. Robert Godfrey

Posted on 07/10/2007 8:10:26 AM PDT by topcat54

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To: lupie

The Lutherans of Sweden are honest and open about blessing same sex marriages.

Doesn’t make em right.


121 posted on 07/10/2007 1:39:31 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: streetpreacher; drstevej; Gamecock; Jean Chauvin; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CCWoody; Wrigley; jboot; ...

Eph 6:18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—
Php 1:4 always in every prayer of mine making request for you all with joy,
Php 1:19 For I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
Php 4:6 Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God;
Col 4:2 ¶ Continue earnestly in prayer, being vigilant in it with thanksgiving;
1Ti 4:5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
(NKJV)

IN OBEDIANCE.

I WON’T ENTER INTO ANY CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONAL ATTACK THREADS ANYMORE!

PRAYERS WE COME TOGETHER!

GOD KNOWS THE HEART SIDE AND THE PRIDEFILLED DEMONS ARE TRYING TO TEAR HIS FLOCK TOO SHREADS!

ONLY REDEMPTIVE FELLOWSHIP!

TO GOD ALONE THE GLORY!


122 posted on 07/10/2007 1:56:43 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: alpha-8-25-02

I’m sorry to tell you, but you won’t be posting much in the religion forum.

I’m just going to go on stating what I believe and defending it the best I can. I can’t call anyone wrong, who am I? God knows what’s in our hearts.


123 posted on 07/10/2007 2:03:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: netmilsmom
No he isn’t, he is in schizm. This kind of Traditionalist does not believe that the Pope is the Pope. He also is a Protestant, protesting Rome.

I believe you are incorrect. Sungenis is not sedevacantist.

124 posted on 07/10/2007 2:04:30 PM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54

This is from your post.....
“The battle raged for several years while Matatics remained in full communion with Rome. Then in early 2005, Matatics embraced a view known as sedevacantism, which is the opinion that no legitimate pope has occupied the Holy See since the death of Pius XII. “


125 posted on 07/10/2007 2:07:09 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: netmilsmom
We are also taught that no one knows the mind of God at the hour of death.

Who “we”? RCs have been spending mucho dinero on indulgences for centuries with the sure expectation that there were assisting those in purgatory along their purging journey. According to RC theology, it is the rare bird that goes directly to heaven without a pit stop in the flames of purging.

According to dogma, you can be 99.999% sure that auntie Methodist spent some time being purged.

126 posted on 07/10/2007 2:11:13 PM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: netmilsmom; All

LORD WILLING DAILY DEVOTIONS WILL BE HERE DAILY!

I WILL CONTINUE TO PRAISE IN GRATITUDE!

5 SOLAS!


127 posted on 07/10/2007 2:11:17 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 ("SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE")
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To: netmilsmom
You said "Sungenis" not "Matatics".

We know where Gerry stands. He has logically and consistently gone all the way across the Tiber. Sungenis only got his toes wet, according to Gerry.

128 posted on 07/10/2007 2:14:06 PM PDT by topcat54 ("... knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience." (James 1:3))
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To: topcat54

Ooops, sorry.
Sungenis is a traditional Catholic as I am. My parish has an Historically Catholic Holy Mass post-VII. That doesn’t make us a seperate rite or church. Just with less innovation squeaking into the Roman Missal. Our basic Holy Mass is the same as a Charismatic or LifeTeen Mass. They just put in more spice while following the General Instruction of the Roman Missal.


129 posted on 07/10/2007 2:33:26 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: alpha-8-25-02

Could you please turn off the “All Caps”.

It is interpreted as shouting.


130 posted on 07/10/2007 2:39:58 PM PDT by fishtank ("Amnesty" and "amnesia" are from the same root word !!!)
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To: topcat54

It all comes down to “the desire and contrition”

And BTW, we don’t buy indulgences anymore.


131 posted on 07/10/2007 2:42:39 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: topcat54

Oh and also, this is the only Dogma concerning Purgatory.

“The teaching of the Catholic Church on Purgatory is stated succinctly in the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church as follows:

Purgatory is the state of those who die in God’s friendship, assured of their eternal salvation, but who still have need of purification to enter into the happiness of heaven. Because of the communion of saints, the faithful who are still pilgrims on earth are able to help the souls in purgatory by offering prayers in suffrage for them, especially the Eucharistic sacrifice. They also help them by almsgiving, indulgences, and works of penance.”

Any other additions to that is doctrine and not infallable. I’m not seeing that 99.99% in there.


132 posted on 07/10/2007 2:49:18 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: alpha-8-25-02
"I WILL CONTINUE TO PRAISE IN GRATITUDE!"

And I will Also Make that my Goal, our Lord Enabling.

133 posted on 07/10/2007 3:16:13 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!!)
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To: kawaii

Tell us the one and only Orthodox Church.


134 posted on 07/10/2007 3:30:15 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: netmilsmom
You got tossed from Catholic Answers? For what?!!

I lurked there for a while (a former Freeper invited me), but after getting called and told all the things that Catholic on this board say are not true (as a non Catholic I am going to hell, am demon possessed, and as a Lutheran I really worship satan etc) I figured that folks were a lot more knowledgeable and polite here.

So you must of made some one really mad to get booted!

135 posted on 07/10/2007 3:34:16 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RedDogzRule; netmilsmom
Hey fellow Mo Lu!

Not to stir up a can of worms, but that’s what Martin Luther was trying to get at: salvation by grace, through faith, not by our own works...

My boss is a Baptist from Brazil (4th generation Baptist, not a recent convert). One day we were talking about theology and the subject of Santification/Justification came up. He stated "Well, Lutherans and Catholics believe the same thing in that regard". I went to great lengths to outline the differences (in our eyes I guess), and he looked at me and said "Well, isn't that the same?"

Through the centuries, we have become a lot closer in that regard. So close that many of the Reformed confessions no longer see Lutherans as part of the Reformation (Not on this site, but others I lurk at).

136 posted on 07/10/2007 3:38:18 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: kawaii
i consider any set of folks with different leaders and beleifs to be a different denomination;

So how many denominations does the Roman church have using that definition?

137 posted on 07/10/2007 4:35:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: alpha-8-25-02
I haven't read through this entire thread but do you interpret proclaiming truth versus the errors of Romanism and Popery as attack threads and "tearing apart his flock"?

You write: "Prayers that we come together".

What, pray tell, do we come together around? I submit that our love of doctrine is in exact proportion to our love for Christ, that our love for Biblical truth is tantamount to our love for Him.

    "Just as in the days of the Apostles, so at this day we are forced to hear from certain denominations that we (by our obstinacy to adhere to the truth) do offend against love and unity in the churches, because we reject their doctrine.

    It would be better (they say) that we should let it pass, especially since the doctrine in dispute is what they call 'no-essential' and, therefore, (they say) to stir up so great a discord and contention in the church over 'one or two' doctrines and those not the most important ones is 'unfruitful' and 'unnecessary'.  To this I reply:

    Cursed be that love and unity which cannot be preserved except at the peril of the word of God!"

- Martin Luther

If You Love Christ Then You'll Love Doctrine

138 posted on 07/10/2007 4:53:04 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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To: kawaii
The Bible, a physical translation of a bunch of words which are not something of themselves but representations of ideas which cannot be understood apart from the Holy Spirit which breathed them into the writers

I don't know of many Protestants who would disagree with that. In fact, the essence of that statement was a tenet of Sola Scriptura and the Reformation...

"The supreme judge by which all controversies of religion are to be determined, and all decrees of councils, opinions of ancient writers, doctrines of men, and private spirits, are to be examined, and in whose sentence we are to rest, can be no other but the Holy Spirit speaking in the Scripture." -- Westminster Confession of Faith

139 posted on 07/10/2007 4:54:44 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: streetpreacher

“no-essential” = “non-essential”


140 posted on 07/10/2007 4:59:03 PM PDT by streetpreacher (Arminian by birth, Calvinist by the grace of God)
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