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Vatican says other Christian churches "wounded" (Non-Catholics not fullly Christian)
Reuters ^ | 7-20-07 | Phil Stewart

Posted on 07/10/2007 8:00:34 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The Vatican said on Tuesday Christian denominations outside Roman Catholicism were not full churches of Jesus Christ.

Protestant leaders said this was offensive and would hurt inter-religious dialogue.

A 16-page document by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which Pope Benedict once headed, described Christian Orthodox churches as true churches, but suffering from a "wound" since they do not recognize the primacy of Pope.

But the document said the "wound is still more profound" in Protestant denominations.

"Despite the fact that this teaching has created no little distress ... it is nevertheless difficult to see how the title of 'Church' could possibly be attributed to them," it said.

The Vatican text, which restates the controversial document

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; christian; pope; protestant; vaticandomination; viniusinvictus
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To: Bladerunnuh
I appreciate a man who speaks his mind based on his principles, and doesn't water down his own beliefs to be popular. It speaks of strong character.

I think he's wrong, but at the end of the day, that's OK because we are on the same side, after all. Catholics don't make a habit of sawing the heads off me and my Protestant pals for not recognizing the primacy of the Pope. The same cannot be said for certain other religions.
21 posted on 07/10/2007 8:12:02 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: DManA
The body of Christ is stronger for being organized into independent cells.

So you call the Christ Church of Al Qaeda home? Your statement makes no sense to a Christian. We are called to be one as Christ is One with the Father.

22 posted on 07/10/2007 8:12:56 AM PDT by pgyanke (Duncan Hunter 08--You want to elect a conservative? Then support a conservative!)
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To: Dr. Thorne
I guess you'll assert that no true Protestant would accept openly homosexual clergy?
23 posted on 07/10/2007 8:13:29 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Dr. Thorne

Yeah right, goddeses, statues, saints, sure - one problem. Where was your church the first dozen or so centuries? All of the Saints your wanna be church does not have were the martyrs and leaders of Christ’s one church - The Holy and Catholic Church.

I was at a Lutheran funeral a while ago and during their creed I kept having to resist the urger to ask the pastor where that came from.

There is but one church of Christ and he started it and it is still going strong.


24 posted on 07/10/2007 8:13:58 AM PDT by CTK YKC
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To: Bladerunnuh

This will cause me to have many sleepless nights. Not.


25 posted on 07/10/2007 8:15:08 AM PDT by RoseyT
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To: pgyanke

“So you call the Christ Church of Al Qaeda home? Your statement makes no sense to a Christian.”

No, I’m going to have to agree with him also. God does the same thing in nature. He splits the gene pool into diverse bits and sprinkles them here and there. The same reason He knocked down the tower of Babel and didvided the peoples and languages. It’s better to have a million churches where one or two of them might get it right, than to have all your eggs in one basket and everyone is wrong (and dead).


26 posted on 07/10/2007 8:15:31 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: Bladerunnuh
Other Christian Churches view idol worshiping Vatican as wounded. There...I fixed it.
27 posted on 07/10/2007 8:16:13 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: pgyanke
So you call the Christ Church of Al Qaeda home? Your statement makes no sense to a Christian. We are called to be one as Christ is One with the Father.

You do realize that the early church was organized on a cell basis, don't you? Oneness with God doesn't require us to put all our eggs in one temporal basket.
28 posted on 07/10/2007 8:16:46 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Keep your friends close; keep your enemies at optimal engagement range)
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To: Bladerunnuh
"not fully Christians"... what a laugh.

The Vatican wants their one world "church" with Rome as it's head. One day they are going to get what they are looking for as they ride the Beast. I hope they enjoy the trip, it will only last for approximately 3 1/2 years. Then this so-called one world "church" the Vatican is longing to establish will be swiftly decimated by the Antichrist after he has used it to solidify his political position in the world. Once that is accomplished, God's Word says that it is going to be swiftly destroyed! ALL of the wealth of Rome and this unified one world "church" along with all of it's land will be confiscated and the antichrist will declare that he alone is god, and the entire world must worship him or die.

Like I said... enjoy the ride.

29 posted on 07/10/2007 8:17:21 AM PDT by Jmouse007
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To: Bladerunnuh

Not to worry. My E-Free Pastor says we are part of the true church so it looks like we are alright.


30 posted on 07/10/2007 8:23:08 AM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: Brilliant

Heck, I’m Catholic and I think there are a lot of lost souls in Catholicism. Thank goodness BXVI is closing the cafeteria.


31 posted on 07/10/2007 8:27:33 AM PDT by Malacoda (A day without a pi$$ed-off muslim is like a day without sunshine.)
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To: blue-duncan

>>Not to worry. My E-Free Pastor says we are part of the true church so it looks like we are alright<<

I love you!!!!


32 posted on 07/10/2007 8:28:31 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Jmouse007

>>”not fully Christians”... <<

Did you see that this was added by the OP?


33 posted on 07/10/2007 8:29:59 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: CTK YKC
I was at a Lutheran funeral a while ago and during their creed I kept having to resist the urger to ask the pastor where that came from.

Do you mean the Nicene Creed that predates the formation of the RCC as it split from the Eastern /Greek Orthodox?

34 posted on 07/10/2007 8:30:38 AM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka

Yes I mean the Nicene creed that does not pre-date the Catholic church unless it was written before Peter was the Holy See of Rome.

There are 22 Catholic churches, not just the Eastern and Roman churches. When you look at what PBXVI said he was not talking about any of the 22.


35 posted on 07/10/2007 8:33:18 AM PDT by CTK YKC
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To: Bladerunnuh

Now if they’d just just condemn evolution and higher criticism!


36 posted on 07/10/2007 8:37:34 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Ve`attah, hirgu khol-zakhar bataf; vekhol-'ishah yoda`at 'ish lemishkav zakhar harogu!")
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To: Dr. Thorne
We don't worship goddesses or saints....you have been brainwashed by hatred and jealousy.

I know you won't answer, but what denomination do you belong to and attend Church every Sunday? I'll bet you say you don't attend Church, and that you are a Christian.

37 posted on 07/10/2007 8:41:12 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: Brilliant

So, what do you see as the problem with the Catholic Church?


38 posted on 07/10/2007 8:43:00 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: Bladerunnuh

How so?


39 posted on 07/10/2007 8:44:38 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

What IDOL do we Catholics worship?


40 posted on 07/10/2007 8:46:15 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary in '08.....Her PHONINESS is GENUINE !!!!)
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